deepest penetrating 9mm JHP

[gofastman]

Is there a 9mm hollow point that is known for deep penetration?

I know Hornady XTP's usually fill this roll, but I have read that their "hunting caliber" and "personal defence caliber" bullets are designed differently.

 

[481]

Is there a 9mm hollow point that is known for deep penetration?

I know Hornady XTP's usually fill this roll, but I have read that their "hunting caliber" and "personal defence caliber" bullets are designed differently.

The Hornady XTPs are the best JHP (hunting design) for achieving deep penetration.

The Hornady FTX, (their self-defense design) is a more "fragile" JHP meant to provide more aggressive/greater expansion and therefore a commensurate reduction in penetration.

XTPs provide moderate expansion and deeper penetration.

 

[w2fnt]

The 124 Grn NATO FMJ round used by our military is the best penetration projectile.

 

[MachIVshooter]

I know Hornady XTP's usually fill this roll

And still do in this case. Other than FMJ or hardcast, you can't beat the XTP for penetration.

Sierra makes (made?) some JFP that'd probably work well, though I'm not sure about a 147. I'll check

Just checked. Nope. XTP it is!

 

[Water-Man]

Try Double Tap 147gr. +P FMJ-FP

 

[Lord Palmerston]

COR BON 115 gr +P is well known for its high muzzle velocity, about 1360 fps with a 4 inches barrel. No doubt that the bullet will expand nicely but penetration should be good though.

 

[481]

The 124 Grn NATO FMJ round used by our military is the best penetration projectile.

The OP is asking specifically for JHP designs known to produce the deepest penetration.

He is not asking about FMJs.

 

[Geckgo]

Take a FMJ, drill a hole, expansion should be minimal.

Most JHP makers talor them to fit what customers want, big expansion.

If you want a FMJ that can penetrate, check out corbon swaging and ask them if they can set you up to make JHPs with thicker jackets, thining out only at the tip, for less expansion and deeper penetration. Otherwise, soft lead should work.

 

[R.W.Dale]

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I'd like to know as well in my case not for defense but rather hunting small to medium sized critters (up to 100lbs or so)

FMJ would be out due to regulation. Hard cast would work but I'd still like some bullet expansion.

So for me the question would be what projectile offers the most delayed expansion and deepest penetration


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[R.W.Dale]

Take a FMJ, drill a hole, expansion should be minimal.

BAD IDEA

Because when the lead core squirts out that hole apoun firing and the jacket stays in the bbl you then have an obstructed bore waiting to KB on the next shot



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[Steve C]

The faster the bullet is traveling the faster it will expand. The deepest penetrating JHP's are 147 gr at around 990 fps, most data shows them penetrating 14+"'s of ballistic gel. Winchester SXT's or Ranger (also SXT's) have good penetration. Of course a JHP that doesn't expand at all will likely penetrate the most.

 

[Shipwreck]

I thought I read somewhere that Gold Dot 124gr or 124gr +P (I forget which) did 18 inches in gel...

 

[jackpinesavages]

any 147 gr JHP.....from a G34/17L

 

[CDW4ME]

The 147 gr. loads are likely to offer the deepest penetration in 9mm JHP.

 

[Cards81fan]

...is a more "fragile" JHP meant to provide more aggressive/greater expansion...

While I know what you mean by this, I think it may be misleading to others.

Frangibility ≠ Expandability.


Expanded JHP:

Fragmented Frangible Slug:



But as you said, generally the hottest and least expansive JHP ammo will have the greatest penetration, as the expansion slows the round and mitigates penetration, ceteris paribus.

 

[jon_in_wv]

Check out the Hipowers and Handguns website. Stephen A. Camp would take quite a few deer with his 9mm and posted a lot of info on his sight. In general it seems any of the 147 JHPs seemed to be pretty effective.

 

[Sean Smith]

You want a 147gr XTP or Gold Dot. All else being equal, heavier weight means more penetration, and both the XTP and the Gold Dot are known for holding together and not fragmenting.

 

[Dr.Rob]

I'd suggest a soft point instead of a hollow point.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/product_info.php/pName/50rds-9mm-sellier-bellot-124gr-soft-point-ammo

 

[481]

While I know what you mean by this, I think it may be misleading to others.

Frangibility ≠ Expandability.


Expanded JHP:

Fragmented Frangible Slug:



But as you said, generally the hottest and least expansive JHP ammo will have the greatest penetration, as the expansion slows the round and mitigates penetration, ceteris paribus.

The term that I employed was f-r-a-g-i-l-e, not f-r-a-n-g-i-b-l-e.

When used to describe present day bullet design there is a difference.

 

[ironhead7544]

The Buffalo Bore 147 gr load would also be good for some penetration.

 

[kmbrman]

In my gallon water jug test on 147 Gr. JHP 9mm. bullets , I've tested the 147Gr. Gold Dot JHP and found 3 jugs were penetrated, but the bullet stopped in front of the 4th jug and was found fully expanded in front, lying on it's side. However, in test of the Hornady XTP 147 JHP , it also penetrated the front of the 4th. jug and was found inside fully expanded and had cracked the back side but did not exit. Both bullets expanded to about .50 cal, but the Hornady has the slight edge as far as this test shows, especially if you want the most penetration. BTW, this is from a Glock 26 pistol.

 

[Cards81fan]

The term that I employed was f-r-a-g-i-l-e, not f-r-a-n-g-i-b-l-e.

When used to describe present day bullet design there is a difference.

Ahhh. Agreed! I see that now

 

[jon_in_wv]

withdrawn...........

 

[gofastman]

I'd suggest a soft point instead of a hollow point.

http://www.ammunitiontogo.com/produc...oft-point-ammo

AH HA! I did not know soft point 9mm bullets existed, thanks!


anybody else have an opinion on the issue of 124gr soft point vs 147gr XTP for penetration?

 

[R.W.Dale]

Magtech also loads and sells a SP bullet.

The only problem is I've never seen any testing on these making them and their expansion properties a big unknown.


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