Deer rifle. 243 vs 30-30

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R.W.Dale said:
I was talking about new production guns with my comments.

I wouldn't call em lemons its just that they didn't shoot particularly well and had their own strange design flaws that held them back in the accuracy dpt
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Sorry, I didn't get the implication. Apologies.

I remember some folks weren't fond of the 340 magazine. I never had a prob, and my 340 was quite accurate, even with irons.
 
The 243 will hold a scope better, recoil less, have bolt action accuracy, and you aren't stuck with 1 brand of lever ammo.
And it'll kill deer from 10 yards to 200 yards just fine.
 
""I d get the .243, more accurate of the two.""

Tell my lever action 375 Winchester it should not be shooting into ONE RAGGED HOLE AT 105 YARDS....



I'd take the 30-30 any day of the week over the .243....

With the new 160 ammo for the ole' thutty-thutty --------ooooo almost forgot does the 243 have a 160 bullet--------?


""30-30 Win 140 gr. MonoFlex 82731 2500/1943 2198/1502 1918/1143 1662/858

Hornady's 140grain bullet:
--- At the muzzle 1.5" high

---AT 100 yards 3.0" high

---At 200 yards: 0.3".... low....

Not too bad for the ole' thumper........keep your 243!

If I wanna a 'real':what::what: center fire rifle w/bout as much kick as my M/12/20 Ga. then I shoot my 7600P/308....with it's 16" barrel....RECOIL :eek:..what recoil :D:D
 
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Wow, this many response's on a thread that.....hmmmm I can think of better cartridges to compare. I personally go from 22mag to a7mm-08 and don't feel left out. So the 30-30 gets the vote for me (a good friend of mine hit a hog in the shoulder and had it walk).....personal choices. learn what you want (doesn't always align with what you need) and go from there.
 
Fremmer said:
The 243 will hold a scope better, recoil less, have bolt action accuracy, and you aren't stuck with 1 brand of lever ammo.
And it'll kill deer from 10 yards to 200 yards just fine.
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Hornady list's 4 different bullet weights, in 6 different factory loading's: 140, 150, 160 and 170 grain projectiles!
 
"...........a good friend of mine hit a hog in the shoulder and had it walk""


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Side shot shoulder...on Pig...not a good shot placement! Nature built that area to
withstand/stand upto Tusk-battles!!!
 
Even shooting the pointy gummy tipped gimmick ammo from hornady 30-30 is not anywhere near the same class as 243

A big reason why are the 20" barrels almost all 30-30's made in the past century have been saddled with.

Various loads from a 20" Winchester
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I've got a .30-30 and a 6mm, I'd take the 6mm for accuracy and range any day. I'd take the Marlin for brush, groups of pigs and bad guys.
 
Ok fine, you aren't stuck with 2 brands of ammo. Doesn't matter, the bolt action and caliber are better.
 
If you can get a Savage with the Accutrigger, the the 243. 30-30 is a good gun too and handles well. Bolt action rifles generally can be made to have better triggers than lever action rifles.
 
C-grunt said:
Well I went to the LGS today and they had a nice used older Remington 700 ADL in 270 Win with a 4x scope (I think it was a Bushnell) for 150 bucks more than I was going to pay for the 30-30 or the 243. So it's now on layaway until I can pay off the extra. Nice looking rifle. I'll post pictures when I get it. Thanks for the advice guys.
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Dang it, 30-30 and 243 beaten by the 270 again.
 
Nothing wrong with a 270, a solid choice for a hunting rifle, a bit too zippy for my liking in the brush but really does the trick in the open.
 
Kachok, I thought you were gonna say that the 6.5x55 would be a better choice than the 270......:rolleyes:

I was going to agree with you if you did.....:D
 
viking499 said:
Kachok, I thought you were gonna say that the 6.5x55 would be a better choice than the 270......:rolleyes:

I was going to agree with you if you did.....:D
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No for someone who does not handload they are better off with a wal-mart caliber. 6.5x55 factory ammo is expensive unless you order Prvi and is not nearly as powerful as good handloads. 270 is near it's full potentail in factory form and can be had at any store that sells bullets around the country.
 
C-grunt said:
Well I went to the LGS today and they had a nice used older Remington 700 ADL in 270 Win with a 4x scope (I think it was a Bushnell) for 150 bucks more than I was going to pay for the 30-30 or the 243. So it's now on layaway until I can pay off the extra. Nice looking rifle. I'll post pictures when I get it. Thanks for the advice guys.
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"Good for you" for sorting through some of the total BS posted here, and makeing a good choise for your new to you rifle!

DM
 
I think you made a wise choice if this will be your only deer gun. .270 is a fine round and IMO overall a better round for a wide range of hunting than either the .243 or the 30-30. Recoil is moderate. The only reason I don't own a 270 ids that I have umpteen rifles and just have not found one that I felt I really needed though it could happen tomorrow.
I really like my old Marlin 336. It just "feels" good in my hands and the action is awesome. My 14 yr old shot his first deer with it and I hope my daughter follows up when she is ready. Is it better than my .30-06? No, but I still hunt with it a few times every year in stands that have shots of 100 yds or less.
 
I really like my old Marlin 336. It just "feels" good in my hands and the action is awesome. My 14 yr old shot his first deer with it and I hope my daughter follows up when she is ready. Is it better than my .30-06? No, but I still hunt with it a few times every year in stands that have shots of 100 yds or less.
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No other rifle gives me the level of confidence that a 336 with a scope does. You can't find that number on a ballistics chart.
 
To me the biggest advantage to a good 30-30 is not the ballistics but the fact that it is such a compact handy rifle, often a full 4" shorter then many featherweight bolt action rifles, that makes a big difference when traversing brush so thick you have to crawl through it.
 
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