Democrats Are Playing NRA Roulette

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Funny bit by a former NSSF lobbyist who decided to work for the other side. He in basically encouraging the Democrats not to abandon gun control even though they keep losing elections because of it.

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http://www.latimes.com/news/opinion...1,6562001.story?coll=la-news-comment-opinions

COMMENTARY
Democrats Are Playing NRA Roulette
By Robert A. Ricker, Robert A. Ricker is a lawyer and lobbyist who has represented such groups as the National Rifle Assn. and the Citizens Committee for the Right to Keep and Bear Arms.


Much has been made of the decision by some Senate Democrats to abandon their political base and support legislation backed by the National Rifle Assn. to shield gun makers from lawsuits by crime victims.

They apparently hope they can immunize themselves against attacks from the gun lobby or that the gun lobby will ease up on vulnerable Democrats at election time.

But these Democrats are making a big strategic mistake. They're following the failed strategy of feeding the political "alligator" first, in hopes it will eat them last.

Consider the facts. The Senate bill — S 659 — would shield even reckless gun dealers from accountability. Bull's Eye Shooter Supply, the gun store linked to the 1999 shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills and the sniper shootings in the Washington, D.C., area, cannot account for more than 200 guns in its inventory. The bill would place it above the law. This bill — the NRA's top legislative priority this year — has 54 co-sponsors, nine of them Senate Democrats. A top aide to one leading Senate Democrat called the bill the "Things You've Got to Do to Get Reelected Act," according to a recent article in the Washington Post.

As a former NRA strategist and top gun industry lobbyist, I submit that the Senate Democrats have been hoodwinked.

In 1999, I saw where the NRA and the gun industry were going, and I didn't like it. They began taking grossly irresponsible positions. For example, they opposed closing the gun-show loophole, which allows anyone to buy a gun at a gun show without a background check.

But it wasn't until the change in administrations that I decided to come forward to talk about how the NRA and the gun industry work. Now more than ever, people need to know what I know.

The NRA has no intention of calling off its dogs in an election year. Why? The gun lobby has never placed its trust in the Democratic Party. Never. And, when it comes to guns, the NRA will campaign as hard as it can for a committed Republican over a "squishy" Democrat any day of the week.

What's more, NRA leaders can't believe their success at fooling Senate Democrats. The simple reason the NRA will not go easy on Democrats at election time? The organization has become a wholly owned subsidiary of the Republican Party. Republican members such as Grover Norquist, Oliver North, former Congressman Bob Barr and David Keene of the America Conservative Union dominate the NRA's board of directors. The new NRA president is Kayne Robinson, former Iowa Republican Party chairman.

These people are as committed — or perhaps even more committed — to a Republican majority as they are to protecting the legitimate rights of American gun owners.

An example of the NRA's unwavering stance is my old friend Norquist, a particularly vocal NRA board member who recently referred to bipartisanship as "another name for date rape."

He also said, "We are trying to change the tones in the state capitals — and turn them toward bitter nastiness and partisanship."

And consider the NRA's most recent election activities. Ask former Georgia Democratic Gov. Roy Barnes if his pro-gun positions did him much good with local gun clubs when the NRA rolled into his state last November. Or ask former Missouri Sen. Jean Carnahan if her shotgun-toting photo ops were enough against her NRA-endorsed Republican challenger. GOP congressional campaign leader Tom Davis (R-Va.) has called the gun issue the "cornerstone" of Republican victories in last fall's elections. And Republican dreams of establishing a permanent majority rest largely in the NRA's ability to motivate its members next year.

With the GOP's Senate majority so slim, believing that the NRA will go easy on Democrats in the upcoming election is tantamount to believing in the tooth fairy.

I can tell you firsthand that most gun-owning Americans do not buy into NRA's fear-mongering, and most are unmotivated by NRA "Chicken Little" calls to action. Of the nation's 80 million gun owners, only 4 million are NRA members. Thus, the GOP's overreliance on the NRA is risky. But it is a risk that will pay off for the GOP unless the leaders in the Democratic Party wise up — and quickly.
 
Good. The NRA is destroying the dem party. It wasn't long ago they contributed a sizeable chunk of money to persuade dems to continue gun rights. As the dem party became a socialist arm, the contributions continued to shrink.

Now if the activist members of all the gun groups can convince the deer hunting, union members a paycheck is worthless without freedom, we can continue to win.
 
The NRA has no intention of calling off its dogs in an election year.

Sun rises in the east, too.

The NRA is destroying the dem party.

Sorry, but I believe representatives of the Democratic (sic) party are doing that all by themselves. They've already moved far to the left of America, and seem hell-bent on stampeding still further in that direction. I doubt if they need any help from us at all, in fact.
 
The Senate bill — S 659 — would shield even reckless gun dealers from accountability. Bull's Eye Shooter Supply, the gun store linked to the 1999 shooting at the Jewish Community Center in Granada Hills and the sniper shootings in the Washington, D.C., area, cannot account for more than 200 guns in its inventory. The bill would place it above the law.

The problem for the dems is that people hate liars. and yet they keep perpetuating obvious lies like the one above. All one has to do is read the legislation which is very short, and one will know that the above statement is a lie.
 
. Of the nation's 80 million gun owners, only 4 million are NRA members

Whatever anyone's take on the NRA, this is a cryin' shame. Every gun owner should belong to at least one major gun rights group. I don't care if it's NRA, GOA or JPFO. Can you imagine the clout of a 40 million member NRA or 30 million member GOA?
 
Whatever anyone's take on the NRA, this is a cryin' shame. Every gun owner should belong to at least one major gun rights group. I don't care if it's NRA, GOA or JPFO. Can you imagine the clout of a 40 million member NRA or 30 million member GOA?

I try to make this a reality by giving memberships to just about everyone I know who is PRO RKBA. I always ask them first and if they say yes they get an associate membership to the NRA. I'm up to 8 a year now. If we all do little things like this it can help our overall cause immensly.
 
Standing Wolf,

The dem party is destroying itself?

Does that mean NRA members and I can forget about volunteering for the next election?

I don't have to donate any more money?

No more working the phone banks?

No more door to door?

No more rallys?

The fight for the Assault Weapons suset started at the last election. That's why we have control of Congress but if you haven't noticed, the Senate is still a problem. We need more pro-gun Senators and we need to keep Bush in the White House so we can get a true conservative in 2008.
 
Outstanding, counselor! Advise your clients what is not in their best interests. This man is either off his rocker or working for us!:D

I pray that the Socialists never abandon their bleating about "eeevil guns." It will turn more of their beloved "workers" against them and awaken them to the horror of Socialism.:cool:
 
Or ask former Missouri Sen. Jean Carnahan if her shotgun-toting photo ops were enough against her NRA-endorsed Republican challenger.
Maybe because she was as anti-gun as her worthless dead husband? Maybe because Talent has an excellent gun rights record? :rolleyes:

This guys either a complete moron (quite likely) or he is working for us.
 
The NRA isn't destroying the Democratic Party, it's the stupid boneheads that keep trying to take our guns away that keep the Dims from going forward and getting anything positive accomplished. They've had the last 10+ years to get their act together as a party and they have failed miserably. As for union members banding together to vote for them, I'd say that was a 50/50 proposition. A lot of them didn't vote for Gore because of his threats to gun ownership.

I don't know what 2004 will bring but the majority of Senators running for re-election are Dims this time around and they are going to have to show everyone why they should keep their jobs in light of their individual performances over the last six years. I suspect that in my home state of Georgia, the person that replaces Zell Miller will be a Republican, either Johnny Isaakson or Mac Collins.

Senator Miller will be the last of a long line of common sense Democrats that are going the way of the dinosaurs, he will be missed. This new uber/leftist batch have nothing of true substance to offer America.
 
...Consider the facts...In 1999, I saw where the NRA and the gun industry were going, and I didn't like it. They began taking grossly irresponsible positions. For example, they opposed closing the gun-show loophole, which allows anyone to buy a gun at a gun show without a background check.

IIRC, the "gun-show" loophole would also close or limit private party transfers of guns. One of the keys was how one defined a "gun-show". If I receive guns from a family member's estate, did I go to a gun show? If I decided to sell my collection in a garage sale, am I then a gun show promoter? I think that looking for the "facts", as this author says he's done, would produce a different conclusion.

Not that I believe the NRA is above pandering an issue to us. Please don't mistake me...I know there are plenty of anti's out there who sincerely want guns to be only in the hands of government agents. But the NRA is capable of pushing along an issue if it will increase donations into their coffers. If we got rid of all gun-control laws, just how influential would the NRA be?

BTW, my very own Senator McCain is one of the RINOs who loved the idea of closing the "gun-show" loophole. As far as I'm concerned, his position on this issue was a bone tossed to the "Indie's/Undecided's" to make GWB look like a rednecked Texan (like that's a bad thing :D )
 
False premise. Jean Carnahan didn't take any pro-gun positions--not one. Ever. To cite her as an example of a Democrat who tried to move in our direction is ridiculous.

All she did was have her photo taken with a bird gun in the field in a clumsily obvious ploy. Because it was clumsy and obvious, no one within a thousand miles of Missouri was fooled by it.

His advice is sound, but he's sugar coating it for Democrat consumption. The real message is not "don't bother compromising on gun rights, because the bad old NRA will still gut you." The real message is "don't think you can call of the NRA by pretending to compromise on guns, because they have a lot of experience with Democrat politicians and no one is fooled."
 
Former Georgia Gov. Roy Barnes also signed a bill giving the police the ability to confiscate firearms if a "state of emergency" was ever declared. That is what cost him the support of firearms owners in this State, not the fact that he was a Democrat (Georgians have been electing only Democrats as governors for over 100 years, Roy Barnes' antics (including the above firearms confiscation bill) are what broke that record, it certainly wasn't that he was a Democrat). Whoever wrote that article is either a loon, refuses to do his research, or has an agenda. I'd vote for the latter explanation.
 
"For example, they opposed closing the gun-show loophole, which allows anyone to buy a gun at a gun show without a background check. "

Huh? ***? This guy used to work for the NRA and he BELIEVES THIS?

'Closing the gun show loophole' is pure idiocy. One doesn't exist. What the Marxists in this country are trying to do here is restrict private gun sales between people not in the firearms business. As a law-abiding American, I can buy/sell a firearm anywhere I choose (in my state that is), whether at a gun show, in my living room, in a wheat field, or at the local Krispy Creme.

I am really tired of the dishonesty anti-gun bigots use to further their gun-grabbing ends.

If they ever do pass legislation to close this 'loophole', watch out. Then they'll start trying to restrict private gun sales in other places and eventually outlaw all of them.
 
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