Ratzinger_p38
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Hate the NFA? Say 'Thanks, NRA!'
Flat out myth created by GOA.
Hate the NFA? Say 'Thanks, NRA!'
As someone who has been concerned about Mental Health issues and gun rights. There may still be a good deal to be concerned about. I have filed several FOIAs with the Veterans Admin. about submitting lists of veterans to the FBI for inclusion in the prohibited list. This based on information from the Neal Knox website. According to the late Neal Knox, the Clinton Admin was having problems showing the Brady Act was working because privacy laws were preventing the States from submitting most mental health records. So Clinton ordered the Veterans Admin to set up a beauracratic system which would bypass the law requiring appearing before a judge(adjudicated) to be included in the prohibited list. My conversations with the relevant office in the VA have confirmed this process continues. I will be filing a another FOIA monday to get a current copy of that policy. So lets be clear: Since 1999, the VA has been violating the law as a matter of policy. Most veterans included in the FBI/BATFE prohibited list were never adjudicated incompetent but were submitted by a VA medical review board, a violation of the law. Hence the reason for my concern. I will be posting a copy of the FOIA as soon as I receive it.
Hate the NFA? Say 'Thanks, NRA!'
Flat out myth created by GOA.
Yeah, then they can relegate themselves to useless obscurity like the GOA.The headline I would really like to see, I large friendly letters.
NRA tells Democrats to SUCK EGGS.
Ok, lets come back to reality. Democrats (and a lot of Republicans) are not going to just "get rid of it [NICS]".Compromise always means we lose a little more. You want to solve problems with NICS? Fine. Get rid of it.
My point exactly.So for all of you "NO COMPROMISE" folks, be glad the NRA doesn't think like the GOA or we'd probably have lost our gun rights long ago.
stellarpod, from here on in the Dems will shout about how the NRA backed this bill and no amount of denial from Cox or LaPierre will even be heard over the noise. The damage is done and we - that's you, me and the other 3.5million NRA members, now support this piece of garbage.
Worse yet, there's nothing we can do about it. We can't even fire those who sold us out. They've managed, over the years, to change the by-laws so they're completely insulated form any heat we might generate. Sure, some of us may quit sending our money to the NRA but most are all too happy to have their names mentioned as participating in some sanctioned match as if that sanctioning somehow makes them even better than the guy down the road who shoots better but isn't a member.
I called twice to voice my displeasure regarding their "helping" with this bill. It didn't make any difference in the end. I see little reason to support an organization that doesn't support me or my views. I quit!
Silver Bullet said:My point exactly.
On another thread, I invited anyone to tell me what the GOA or JPFO has done for us that compared with recent NRA triumphs of 1) keeping the AWB from being renewed in the first Senate bill that protected the gun industry and 2) getting the courts to slap down New Orleans for gun confiscations.
I don’t see where the “No Compromise” folks are getting anything useful done. So far, no one has responded to my invitation.
Oh, so you're saying we can turn back every gun control law passed during the 20th century whenever we want but our self defeat causes us to compromise with the gun grabbers?Compromise is the ideal of people already defeated in their minds.
No Compromise is the ideal of dreamers, angry teenagers and people willing to kill everyone that gets in their way.