Dems Back Saddam Hussein in New Poll

[Desertdog]

Dems Back Saddam Hussein in New Poll
http://newsmax.com/archives/ic/2005/12/2/90042.shtml


Democrats have given Saddam Hussein a shocking vote of confidence in the latest Fox News Opinion Dynamics survey, with a solid plurality saying the world would be better off if the Butcher of Baghdad was still in power.

Forty-one percent of Democrats gave Saddam a thumbs up, while just 34 percent said Iraq is better served with the murderous dictator gone, reports the New York Post.

In stark contrast, 78 percent of Republicans said toppling the mass-murdering leader left everyone better off. Just 10 percent said they wished Saddam still ruled Iraq.

On the question of whether President Bush lied to the American people about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, 72 percent of Democrats say he did.

Seventy-nine percent of Republicans disagreed, however -- saying that Bush gave the American people the best intelligence he had at the time.

 

[ArmedBear]

Polls like this remind me of why, though I'm an LP member and dislike the GOP many times, many ways, I often vote for the Republican just because it's a priority for me to keep these tools out of office.

 

[dasmi]

On the question of whether President Bush lied to the American people about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, 72 percent of Democrats say he did.

Seventy-nine percent of Republicans disagreed, however -- saying that Bush gave the American people the best intelligence he had at the time.

Doesn't really matter much anymore. We're there, regardless of how or why it happened. Now we need to finish and get out.
And most polls are bullshyte anyway.

 

[Biker]

Doesn't really matter much anymore. We're there, regardless of how or why it happened. Now we need to finish and get out.
And most polls are bullshyte anyway.

Gotta ditto that one.
Biker

 

[308win]

Doesn't really matter much anymore. We're there, regardless of how or why it happened. Now we need to finish and get out.
And most polls are bullshyte anyway.

Yep and the Iranians will thank us everyday for doing what they couldn't accomplish in 8 years of war.

 

[Carlos]

then, they'll turn around and screw us first chance they get.

This is bloody amazing that our own people think this way.

Just wow.
:banghead:

 

[ArmedBear]

then, they'll turn around and screw us first chance they get.

This is bloody amazing that our own people think this way.

Just wow.
:banghead:

They're not our own people, really, though in PDX I guess they're your neighbors.

 

[Carlos]

First sentence refers to Iranians.

As far as the second line, I was talking about the powers that be in Washington.

Yes, I'm surrounded by Democrats in PDX. Where are you from? People are perfect where you live? I sincerely doubt it.

This current thinking of our beloved leadership has me flabergasted. I wonder if they truly represent the citizenry of the US sometimes. I'm disgusted with the Repubs as well.

 

[Malone LaVeigh]

Bah. Just the sort of misrepresentation I'd expect from Newsmax and parroting I'd expect on this board.

The poll, unless there's a lot unreported in this story, does not in any way show "Dems back Saddam." Tryreading it for yourself.

saying the world would be better off if the Butcher of Baghdad was still in power

Compared with Zarqawi and the Iranians, perhaps I'd agree. Not to mention the damage done to US prestige and influence on the world done by the invasion that most of the world considers illegal.

Forty-one percent of Democrats

How is this a majority?

On the question of whether President Bush lied to the American people about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction, 72 percent of Democrats say he did.

Showing a higher proportion of Dems in the "Reality-based community" as opposed to the "Faith-based community."

I hate it when fools on the right make me feel like I have to defend Democrats.

 

[cbsbyte]

And 92% of polls are made up on the spot.

I believe that this poll shows that many people, mostly Democrats since they were against the war from the start, are worried about what kind of monster we might have created by removing Saddam. If someone like al-Zarqawi is able to topple the new weak Iraq Government, and create a new terriost state, then removing Saddam's Government was a terrible mistake.

 

[CAnnoneer]

It is a manipulation of results, as usual.

They ask the question:
"Would it have been better to stay out of Iraq?"

And then they tally the affirmative answer as "yes" to the question:
"Would it have been better if Saddam had remained in power?"

 

[Don Gwinn]

Streeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeetchin' it . . . . as hard as they can!

 

[longeyes]

stranger in a strange land

This article aside, there are a lot of "Americans" who talk as if they want us to lose--and not only in Iraq. These are "Americans" who hate the idea of American power and prosperity, who are consumed by guilt and self-loathing; they hate the very principles on which this nation is based. We don't need NewsMax or World Net Daily to tell us that. Most of us know these people personally. If you don't, well, consider yourself fortunate. Where I live, Los Angeles, they abound.

 

[Unisaw]

No age is unique in producing privileged persons who can happily dichotomize condemnation of their society and enjoyment of its fruits. –Alf Mapp, Jr.

 

[wolf]

longeyes: Most of us know these people personally. If you don't, well, consider yourself fortunate. Where I live, Los Angeles, they abound
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

wolf thinks they come from the "i hate america" factory in santa monica

wolf

 

[Art Eatman]

Well, Hussein is the ideal Democrat leader. He installed an extremely strong central government, with the same amount of power as desired by the more outspoken congressional Democrats.

He could institute programs at will, without all the arguing and fuss from those who didn't like his ideas. he didn't have to put up with dissent from those of the Great Unwashed who didn't appropriately recognize the greatness of the Elite.

What more could a good Democrat want?

, Art

 

[longhorngunman]

Exactly Art. A lot of my buddies think that the Rats would like to see Saddam acquitted and put back in power in Iraq. I say this is hogwash, they would much rather see him on the ticket with Hillary in 08.

 

[mak43]

Ok... here goes... I am a Democrat... not a right wing conservative bible belt bush following christian. Do I think Sadam should be in power ??? What the h^ll does it matter to the average American? If you are not an ultra conservative bush monger or an executive of an oil company (which is why we are over there btw... that and the fact that W. is trying to finish what H didnt finsih) who cares !!! He is just one of many leaders of the rag-tag countries who did commit crimes against his people...Should we attack all countries whose leaders commit crimes againt thier peoples? The reason we are there is simple.... O I L ... ( the saudis didnt help any either... the bush family is in bed with them... or they are in the bush's bed... however you want to look at it.) As far as WMD's if that is why we are there, lets pull out... simple fact folks... there arent any WMD's... period. Here is the really sad part about it all..... over 2000 young American lives have been lost... We Americans cant choose to drink a beer or have a smoke on our own untill we are 21, but you can sure be sent to Iraq or Afghanistan and have limbs blown off.... Women are about to loose the right to choose ( abortion), but being gunned down in Iraq is ok..... Just my thoughts... now have at it... I know you GOP people and bush fanatcis are taking aim as I type.

 

[grampster]

Longhorngunman,

+1.

 

[El Tejon]

mak,

WMDs have been found in Iraq. Would not know it for the American media. But they were there, just as Bill Clinton, Algore and Madeline Notsobright told us. As well, the burden was on Kindly Uncle Saddam to account for them. He failed to do so.

If oil was the reason to invade Iraq, why just Iraq? Plenty of other nations to invade that would be much easier to conquer? Of course, it would be easier to drill here--Boston, New York City, San Fransico all should be drilled.

Kindly Uncle Saddam violated his probation. He was to account for all this wmds. He failed to do so and had his probation violated with the War of Continuation.

Womyn are not about to lose the right to choose abortion. Alito will simply be one vote away from striking down the cornerstone of the Anti-Constitution, Roe v. Wade. In the years ahead, when Roe is overturned, states will decide whether or not abortion will be tolerated.

I know the Democrats wish to put Kindly Uncle Saddam on the Presidential ballot in '08, but maybe just run him for mayor of Denver or San Fransico first?

 

[mak43]

Hold the phone..... WMD's were found ??? We invaded a Muslim country, trying to push out Democracy and Capitalism and Chistianity on a country which has been around many tens times more in years than the good ole USA,and they had WMD's and didnt use them ??? What did Sadam have... a camel toting a scud? Come on guys.... not happening. One more thing I forgot to mention..... Happy Holidays... That seems to be the RPC ( republican politcally correct) term. I thought you guys were the religious right here..... ??? Did I miss something.... grin Boy can I stir it up or not.

 

[org]

IFAIK Iraq didn't exist before WWII. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.

You need to pay more attention if you think this is a stronghold of the "religious right" whatever that is.

 

[jefnvk]

Forty-one percent of Democrats gave Saddam a thumbs up, while just 34 percent said Iraq is better served with the murderous dictator gone, reports the New York Post.

So the other 25% don't matter? I am leery of polls that can't get numbers to add to at least 99% or 101% (I'll give them a point for rounding. 25 is too many though).

 

[Lone_Gunman]

In stark contrast, 78 percent of Republicans said toppling the mass-murdering leader left everyone better off.

The fact that only 78% of the President's own men support him is what the Republicans need to be concentrating on. It doesn't matter how many Democrats are against Bush, they are always going to be against him.

The reason the Republicans will lose the Presidency in 2008 is because Bush's own party is leaving him.

 

[Don Gwinn]

Iraq was indeed created in the early 20th Century. As I recall, it was going to solve some of the problems the British were experiencing from trying to run that part of the world.