Here's a follow up on yesterday's "Gun buyback" in Detroit. Make sure to watch the video shot by one of the people who was there.
Detroit Police harass legal gun owners at 'Gun buyback'
Detroit Police harass legal gun owners at 'Gun buyback'
Detroit Police harass legal gun owners at 'Gun buyback'
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TexasRifleman
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Sadly I'm not really surprised to see that sort of thing. Disgusted, but not surprised.
Freedom_fighter_in_IL
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Just another shining example of local law enforcement abusing authority as usual. Was pretty obvious he has NO clue about the laws in his own jurisdiction but how unusual is that really!
answerguy
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Interesting the attitude that the police officer showed knowing he was on video.
thunder173
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A perfect example of Detroit's brightest finest LEO's on the job,....reminds me why I stay out of Detroit,...
B_Li_Ber_Tar_Ian
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Meh...It's Detroit...Burn it already.
kingpin008
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That's...infuriating. I don't know that I'd have been able to hold my tongue, had I been in those fella's shoes.
Chainsaw2
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The Storm Trooper probably didn't know he was being recorded. With the narrow view, it may well have been a concealed camera. What a bunch of racist jerks! You didn't see him steaking to any minorities that way, just whites.
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bigfatdave
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This is mostly a bookmark for future video viewing, but how do we know the buyback shotgun wasn't a registered SBS?
kingpin008
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Oh please. It's obvious that they were stopped because he didn't like the fact that the fella bought a gun out in the open when he didn't think they could. The cop was being a first-class SOB, but I didn't hear any slurs or see anything that said "racism" to me. And he wasn't speaking to any minorities because he was busy dealing with the three guys in front of him.
Also, check out the video starting at about the 1:40 mark. A WHITE cop walks in from the right hand side, and starts examining ID's that the lead cop hands him. He stays there for the rest of the encounter. But he's a double agent, right? Totally into getting the best of whitey.
So yeah - IMHO, you might want to re-think the whole "racism" thing.
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2WheelsGood
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I live 30 miles from Detroit, and I haven't been there in years. This is why.
Chainsaw2
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I disagree with you on this. Lots of racist attitudes have been displayed without any racial slurs being used. Where have you been? This oaf clearly dislikes whites and gunowning whites in particular. He badly needs retraining or perhaps fired for speaking to a law abiding citizen like that. If his actions do not deeply offend, then I find that laughable. There is no way a white cop could get away with speaking to a black in that manner, they'd get fired for racism. So, if it works one way, then it's also true the other direction.
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kingpin008
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Such as?
Based on what? His interrogation of the individuals?
His actions DO offend me. But I also know enough to seperate "abuse of power" and 'racism" in his actions.
alfack
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I'm all for free trade of guns rkba, etc., but they did not have the permission of the landowner to be there.
You can't just camp out in my front yard because you heard my grandpa passed away and was a collector.
They should have put up a sign on public property pointing to a location where the sheep had a chance to get more money for their guns.
Was the cop a jerk? Yes, but the guys trying to buy guns were in the wrong, also.
You can't just camp out in my front yard because you heard my grandpa passed away and was a collector.
They should have put up a sign on public property pointing to a location where the sheep had a chance to get more money for their guns.
Was the cop a jerk? Yes, but the guys trying to buy guns were in the wrong, also.
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kingpin008
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It was a public event. How did they not have permission to be there?
Chainsaw2
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Breakdown of the makeup of the rank and file of DPD [11]:
Male: 73%
Female: 27%
African-American/Black: 63%
White: 34%
Other: 3%
The Detroit Police Department has one of the largest percentages of sworn black officers of any major city police department. Incidentally, reports and allegations of racism and discrimination against whites and other non-African backgrounds have surfaced, even between employees of the department. Currently, 12 of the department's 15 upper command members including the chief, assistant chief of operations, assistant chief of administration, and all six of the department's district commanders are black.[12
I know it's Wiki, but there are tons of other links showing the same thing. Educate yourself.
Male: 73%
Female: 27%
African-American/Black: 63%
White: 34%
Other: 3%
The Detroit Police Department has one of the largest percentages of sworn black officers of any major city police department. Incidentally, reports and allegations of racism and discrimination against whites and other non-African backgrounds have surfaced, even between employees of the department. Currently, 12 of the department's 15 upper command members including the chief, assistant chief of operations, assistant chief of administration, and all six of the department's district commanders are black.[12
I know it's Wiki, but there are tons of other links showing the same thing. Educate yourself.
alfack
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Uh, no. It's you that doesn't understand.
If the private property owner doesn't want you there, then you have NO right to be there, period. Why do you think they left w/o a stink?
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That might be true, but there was no indication that the cops were harassing them at the request of the property owner. And even if that were the case, the cops should only have harassed them if they didn't leave after the owner asked them to.
kingpin008
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So what you're saying is that because there are a lot of black officers, and that some reports of discrimination have popped up, racism is the standard for the DPD.
Good luck with that logic in the future.
I understand that. However, this was a public event, and nobody had a problem with the guys being there until the cops gave them the business. Therefore, they had permission to be there until they were asked to leave - which they did.
Thus, your original argument doesn't stand.
Chainsaw2
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"So what you're saying is that because there are a lot of black officers, and that some reports of discrimination have popped up, racism is the standard for the DPD.
Good luck with that logic in the future. "
Strawman! If a lot of people are saying that there is racism in Detroit PD, then there is a good chance that it exists. Your statement that blacks can't be racist is absurd. Good luck with that fantasy.
I get the feeling that you just want to argue this evening.
jim
Good luck with that logic in the future. "
Strawman! If a lot of people are saying that there is racism in Detroit PD, then there is a good chance that it exists. Your statement that blacks can't be racist is absurd. Good luck with that fantasy.
I get the feeling that you just want to argue this evening.
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brboyer
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Thanks, but I'm well versed in trespass law, in Florida anyway. Many states are similar.
In many/most states it is perfectly legal to walk unto the unenclosed cartilage of private property, like driveways, parking lots, etc. It only becomes trespassing if you refuse to leave when asked to by the owner or his designee. Otherwise walking up and knocking on your front door would be illegal.
Also in many/most states LEO have no authority to make you leave private property. Unless they are doing so when asked by the owner.
Perhaps because the property owner told them to?
Michigan's pistol-free zone does not apply to parking lots. Now, if they are asked to leave and do not leave, that is another matter entirely...trespass. However, they were not allowed to leave, and so broke no laws. It's just another case of a single, solitary LEO on a power-trip.
I really liked how professional he was, telling them to shut their trap, etc, etc. Sad, but not at all unexpected. This video goes a VERY long way to explaining why I am on my final year instructing in Detroit. When the place boils over, I don't want to be any where around.
Geno
I really liked how professional he was, telling them to shut their trap, etc, etc. Sad, but not at all unexpected. This video goes a VERY long way to explaining why I am on my final year instructing in Detroit. When the place boils over, I don't want to be any where around.
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