Diamondback DB9 range test (its not good)

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After I ranted and raved about what a P.O.S. the DB .380 I had was, there are some of you who may wonder how it is I came to be in possession of a DB9, so, to start at the start.... The dealer I sold my DB .380 to, the new one, after the original one had been to the factory twice to get them to replace it the 3rd time it was ready to go back, wanted a pistol I had, he offered a DB9 in trade, told me he had ordered half a dozen and put 100 rounds through one without failure before he put the others in the display case, asked me if I was interested, well, I was, I had handled them at other shops, liked the gun and thought if they were offering a 9mm they must have gotten thier act together and learned how to make guns that actually worked, he told me besides the one he was carrying, he only had one left, I told him if he had so much confidence in them, the one I wanted was the one he function tested, not a NIB one, so we traded.

1st trip to the range, I tried to run every type of 9mm I could think of with the exception of +P which the manual advises against, if I remember correctly it will void the warranty (no +P in a defensive pistol?), in 80 rounds the gun had every kind of malfunction you can imagine, FTF, FTE, stovepipes, FTD, it even had a misfeed so bad it stovepiped a live round, first time I ever saw that, I was shooting with fellow clubmember who has been shooting competetivly longer than I have been alive and he told me he has never seen that either, at that point we agreed, it wasnt the ammo, it wasnt the shooters, it was the gun, we also agreed that on the rare occasion when the gun did go bang it was hitting about 4 inches low and about 4 inches left at 10 yards.

So what could have caused all the problems? Upon disassembly we saw that the recoil spring had come unwound, apparently got snagged on and hung up on the coupling part of the dual recoil spring, (another perceived upgrade), then started to double back on itself, then apparently got hung up and elongated yet again, then double (quadruple?) back on itself again, as my fellow shooter remarked, it looked like a slinky that had been given to a kid hell bent on destroying it, he also said it was remarkable the gun functioned at all in that condition, I agree with both assessments.

So what did I do? I called my buddy and told him what happened and suggested a trade back, having bought my other DB from me and knowing the hell I went through with those people and knowing I did not want to deal with them again and there was no way I was ever going to trust my life to a DB, he offered to buy it back for full value, which I gladly accepted. On a side note here, this is exactly why I preach the value of doing business with and building a relationship with your LGS owner/manager, they care about you and what your opinion of them is (for the most part) think I would have gotten my money back from Academy Outdoor Sports? Think they would give a crap if I tell every body I know they sell junk? Hell no!

In closing all I got to say is the DB are great looking guns, but I personally had REALLY bad experiences with both the .380 and the 9mm, I have heard the .380s work great now, but I have not heard it very much, they must be doing something right to release a 9mm, and I dont think Crimson Trace would design, produce, advertise and market a (very expensive) laser for a gun no one is buying, but I also heard that DB pretty much crank em out and let the paying customers do the R&D for them so they can tweak them to where they will actually work. Caveat Emptor!
 
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Sounds like you have a great LGS. And your experience sounds like my experience with a low serial # P238. What's the lesson? Let other jerks pay for R&D. I'm not buying anything that hasn't been on the market at least a year.
 
I've been to the LGS a few times to look at the DB9s they have on hand. I'm impressed with the size, no doubt, the DB9 would be the easiest 9mm to carry and its built with decent ergos too.
Even though the gets good reviews, whenever I handle one I can't shake the feeling its going trouble, so far I've listened to my instinct.
 
Haven't heard much good about any of the DiamondBack guns. Everyone says their quality control is horrible, and while they occasionally do put out a working gun, more often than not they'll have at least one major flaw in a major component.

If you want a pocket 9, get the Ruger LC9. At least that's coming from a company with a good track record, and is based on a good design to begin with.
 
FTF, FTE, stovepipes, FTD, it even had a misfeed so bad it stovepiped a live round

Were you limpwristing the gun? I had a customer come in complaining about his DB9, saying many of the same things you are saying. A quick trip with him to the range showed him that it was him, not the gun. We of course arranged a trade in for him, but the gun didn't go back to Diamondback, it went into one of the used pistol cases...
 
That gun, from what I read, requires a tight grip, limp wrist may be part of it, but those problems with the internals should not be occuring. They know we are aware of their first guns problems, the 380, thus many of us are hesitant to buy another one from them. So this 9mm should have been made as close to perfect "out the door" as possible. Or they won't get another chance. My 2 cents
PS: I was going to replace my LCP with one, this week, now, it's not going to happen, chaulk one less sale for diamondback, and I am sure guys who were on the fence will feel the same way.
When you pull a gun, the last thing you need to worry about is if it's going to function or not. After 38-9 yrs of this carrying a gun, I am at the point where if it does give me a problem, I will give them one shot at fixing it, then it's bye bye. I will not ever feel confident if I have a "maybe" gun on my person. Done it with some good brands, like Kahr, Walther, Keltek, and a few more. I don't care why it didn't fire, the mere fact that it didn't fire, is quite enough.My best friend here where I live is a retired career marine, and he's the same with S&W, he had an FFL, class3 etc, was told he had 6 months left and sold everything, a life of collecting impossible to replace weapons. Only to still be here 8 years later clear and healthy. God bless him. He feels the same way, 1 strike, and your out.A little polish here and there for smoother operation is fine, but when you start replacing everything piece by piece, and it still happens, you are just causing yourself a catch 22 problem, it never goes away you never feel confident with that gun. He had a problem with Smith when their QC, went out the window for a few years back in the 70's or 80's, "don't remember exactlly what year it was. But he had to replace so many, he stopped selling them. Opposite of the norm, he won't buy one anymore, he buys Taurus, Why?, because he never had a problem with one. We are creatures of habit, and sometimes things are too important to dwell on how to fix something that is brand new. You paid good money for whatever t is, and you expect it to work as advertised.
If your car did something like that you wouldn't try to fix it, you would want a new one, same with guns. There is a rush to capatalize on the current weapon popularity and steps get skipped, things don't get enough time spent on them to tweak the little things, in a hurry to get that new model out that their marketing info told them is hot right now.
Meanwhile, these aren't coffee machines, they save and take lives,having worked for the DOD, you don't skip steps, or you get bit in the butt later. We have seen it with billion dollar weapons of war. Same difference lower price and scale.
 
As many threads that there are about my Gun shops suck, this is a great example of why they are good to deal with in many cases. Loyalty and good customer service from your LGS has always served me well, I glad it did you. I have no doubt they will continue to get your business.
 
Yet another example of why I buy milsurp pistols: they've already had all the bugs worked out of them, and had to pass military standards for quality and reliability. All these commercial .380's seem to have far more than their share or problems, whereas my 9x18 ComBloc guns have all been flawless.
 
Yet another example of why I buy milsurp pistols: they've already had all the bugs worked out of them, and had to pass military standards for quality and reliability. All these commercial .380's seem to have far more than their share or problems, whereas my 9x18 ComBloc guns have all been flawless.
This is how I generally feel, too. The guns I own (with the exception of one Kahr P45) are all military service weapons.

I'm currently looking for a legitimate pocket pistol for use during the summer but can't find anything that is up to my quality standards. I really liked the idea of the DB9 but I keep reading so many horrible reviews that I'm scared away now.

The only ones that seem to get generally good reviews are the LCP and 3AT... but neither feels any good to me. The search continues.
 
Has ANYONE had a good experience with the DB9? I'm pretty sure that every account/review I've read has been quite negative.

It sounds to me like this thing is DOA, especially considering that there are some great guns in this class/price range (Kahr CM9 springs immediately to mind).
 
I like mine, it's been great after the first couple of mags. Have about 200 rounds through it.

It works great for me but when my 20 year old nephew tried it he had all kinds of issues (even the live round stove pipe) so it had something to do with his grip.
 
It's just not worth the risk, If you want a small gun that fires, the LCP is the only one I find acceptable. If you can go a little larger just get a Glock 26. Don't put the extender on it and get a good solid IWB. You will never have to worry. I unfortunatelly have heard bad things about the LC9, from gunstore owners. They have their own set of problems.Two guys I know like the Baretta NANO, it's small and slim and a 9mm. check it out.There are also a couple new Sigs out, a bit larger but safer than a Glock for pocket carry.
 
gym, I've heard that LCP is a good performer... I've been considering it. Not a fan of the trigger, sights, or overall feel. I'm starting to think that for less than $300, maybe I shouldn't care whether I actually "like" the gun.
 
Sounds like you have a great LGS. And your experience sounds like my experience with a low serial # P238. What's the lesson? Let other jerks pay for R&D. I'm not buying anything that hasn't been on the market at least a year.
the lesson is to stay away from generic firearms and possibly to use fmj ammo in tiny guns. i looked over used pocket pistols and came away with lcp. the keltec-ruger mutant made in nc usa was the chapest but i passed on it.
 
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