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Diamondback DB9 story..

Discussion in 'Handguns: Autoloaders' started by MikePaiN, May 6, 2013.

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  1. Lethal Threat

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    They banned me from their forum...........twice.

    Do not spend your hard earned money on this POS. Your life or your families life is not worth a gun "that maybe it will fire". Mine turned out to be a single shot at best.
     
  2. MikePaiN

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    I'm going to give the DB9 one more chance....If it comes back from repair and is not 100% reliable, I will return it and get something else(likely a CM9).
    If its fixed, then I will happily carry it. I shot it well from the first, with no controls outside of the trigger there really is nothing to "learn" so I wont need to practice live fire much. Once I verify function the gun will be lucky to see more than a couple hundred rounds more in the rest of its life with me.
    I'm hoping to have it back by the end of the month.....I will keep you all posted
     
  3. palmettokat

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    I did look at the video and found it interesting.


    Left me with a few questions: If a gun is not rated for Plus P ammo how many rounds should it be able to shoot safely?
    What do you think about the stove pipe thought some posted there as the cause base upon what happened?
    You mean if a company were to have this major a safety issue they rather face lawsuits than a product change or recoil? I know this one would vary with the company.
    If the gun is this bad has anyone who has reviewed it and posted their approval of it on line come back and change their recommendation?

    Please not pretending to be an expert here on such. Just thinking and asking. But I will visit with my dealer on this issue and have two friends in the business and will ask both shops.
     
  4. WardenWolf

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    I'm just going to reiterate what I said in my previous post:

    Don't trust your life to a Diamondback. Your life is worth much more than that.
     
  5. non2os13

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    I have had pos colts and springfields. Should no one trust them either?
     
  6. Fishbed77

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    For every POS Colt or Springfield, there are likely 99+ that operate flawlessy. The M1911 has proven itself as a sound design, provided it is put together correctly and good magazines are used.

    The DB9, on the other hand, is a flawed design from the start. Every single one of them is afflicted with an incredibly short service life, unreliable mechanicals, and a restriction against firing +P ammo ammo. I have yet to see a single review of one operating reliably into a round count numbering into the 1000s.
     
  7. palmettokat

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    I visited with my lgs this afternoon and was straight with him on what was posted here and he said we have not had an issue with any DB and strongly recommend it. He did say it is a gun that needs to be broken in.

    If I only trusted guns rated for Plus P ammo guess need to toss a SW I have, but don't think I will. Then should I only trust one rated for Plus P Plus? Just asking?

    I do suggest if you are not comfortable with any gun then don't use it. Mount it, sell it, give it away or just lock it up.
     
  8. WardenWolf

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    He's lying, and NEVER go back there again. That is straight up bullcrap right there. I've never heard of one reaching 300 rounds without a problem. About the time it should be "broken in", it's simply broken, period.

    It completely blows my mind that he would claim that. He has to have gotten plenty of these guns back. Most likely he's just trying to avoid yet another return. What a load of horse manure. I can't believe he managed to say that with a straight face. You're better off with a Jennings than a DB9.
     
  9. kokapelli

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    Wow! After my experience with a DB380 and everything I have read at diamondbacktalk.com I would be really suspect of anything your LDS tells you.

    The failure rate of the DB380 pistol is terrible and after my DB380's two trips back to the factory I have had enough of Diamondback and would not under any circumstances consider one of their 9mm pistols, but if you want to be a guinea pig like I was have at it and let us know how it goes.
     
  10. jhb

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    @Palmettokat.......I'm not a db hater and I kinda like 'em except that they are unreliable. Your lgs is either way out of reality, or not paying attention, or too arrogant to see the facts. No way can anyone say that. The failures in the design is known and not just internet ramblings and exaggerations.


    Its a shame too as they have cool little pocket pistols and hopefully the engineers at taurus can work out the issues an make 'em right.
     
  11. C0untZer0

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    Oh ya, if anyone can fix the design, the engineers at Taurus can...
     
  12. jhb

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    One can be hopeful, right? Can't do any worse the the boatmakers at db have done. If we are gonna call spades spades might as well call 'em.:)
     
  13. palmettokat

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    I have no reason to believe anyone is not telling the truth as they know it. Based upon your experiences will not at this time buy the second DB9 my wife wants and will do some more shooting of it. I will let you know my experience with that. Will not be the next few days but will follow back with you all.
     
  14. palmettokat

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    Got chance today to visit other LGS I use on this today. He had one in his display for sale. Not a fan of the DB. He had a couple he had sent back for repair. Said he had tried one and had jamming issue but looked back at review on youtube and the man (can not think of his name right off but he reviews a lot of guns) said it would jam with round nose it was made for hollow point and since it was a self defense carry gun that is all it should be loaded with. I did not notice that in his video but had scanned the video and did listen to each word.

    At same time there was another customer in there who also did not like the DB and tried to take an employee's spouse out of buy one and he said he still did and has no problem with it and really likes it. He did not give a reason he did not like them just said he did not.

    Still plan to shoot mine a good bit more and decide where I am with it. So far still feel safe to depend on it.
     
  15. non2os13

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    Mine has been trouble free. It isn't a range gun and didn't have any problems is the several hundred rounds i have run through it. I have also had only good experience with taurus hundguns as well though.
     
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    Lol, I hate to say, but the diamondback db9 is one of those guns that's only use to me is to "truth test" gun reviews. If I find a review that has nothing but glowing praise, or dances around the issues with statements like "its a great gun but picky with ammo, once you find its preferred diet it's as reliable as the day is long" concerning a pistol that's meant for personal protection....I know not to trust that writer. Stopped reading a few review sites because I got sick of reading glowing praise for many handguns that danced around their obvious issues that are notorious, well known, and widely accepted elsewhere.
     
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    If anyone is really considering a small 9mm pistol like the DB, you'd really be doing yourself a disservice by not checking out the Kahr CM9 before you plunk down your hard earned money on a pistol like the DB
     
  18. MikePaiN

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    As for me, if the DB9 will simply work, it'll would serve the purpose I bought it for.
    I doubt the gun will see even close too a thousand rounds in its lifetime. I didn't buy it with delusions that the pistol was indestructible or was going to be shot at the range every time I go out. Its purpose is light carry and backup to the SR9c. I wanted a 9mm as small as I could get at a reasonable price(with a bonus, the DB9 shoots dead on too)
    When Diamondback gets the DB9 back to me if I can get through 150 rounds without a FTF or light strike, its going into duty.....If its not working, its going back for a CM9 and I'll have two nice used holsters for someone with a working DB9 ;)
     
  19. WardenWolf

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    The problem with that logic, MikePain, is that putting 150 rounds through it will use up a substantial portion of the gun's lifespan. These guns typically have a critical breakdown between 200 and 300 rounds, usually right around 200. So by putting that many rounds through it just to make sure it's reliable, you make it reasonably likely that it will break when you need it most.
     
  20. frankenstein406

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    They kaboom pretty good with +p from watching a video on YouTube.
     
  21. TennJed

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    The CM9 is actually shorter than the DB9 and another to consider would be the Sig P290, which is not as tall as the DB9. All these measurements are so close it comes down to other things to make the decision on what to buy. The DB9 is small, but there are others out there just as small (or smaller), in the same price range, and with better reviews

    DB9
    • Weight: 11 Ounces
    • Length: 5.60"
    • Height: 4.00" with mag
    • Width: 0.80"

    Kahr CM9
    Length O/A: 5.42"
    Height: 4.0"
    Slide Width: .90"
    Weight: Pistol 14 ounces

    Sig P290
    length 5.5
    height 3.9
    width 0.90
    weight 20oz

    Beretta Nano
     
  22. MikePaiN

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    I know you all have been waiting with baited breath for the follow up on this pistol.... :rolleyes:
    After almost 2mo it is finally returned. I called DB a few weeks ago and was told that repairs were taking longer than usual because of supply shortages, I should except it back by 6/21...fair enough. The repair order states the slide was refurbished, latest non-specified upgrades were done and it was test fired x12 rounds with WWB 115g. Its not listed but the feed ramp and chamber throat are polished.
    I will be taking this DB9 to the range tonight or early tomorrow and I'll report back on how it goes.
     
  23. improperlyaged

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    A friend of mine asked me if I thought these were good guns, I told him they were junk. He went and bought it anyway, and then spent two months trying to make it not junk. I will never own one.
     
  24. ole farmerbuck

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    I went ahead and sold mine. It was a .380 though. :barf:
     
  25. MikePaiN

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    Well.....it ain't good :( I'm calling this one a POS.

    I tried four types of 115g ammo, Federal Champ., Rem. JHP, WWB and WPA(steel). All the brass ammo had feeding problems, 1-2 per 10rounds fired. Strangely enough I ran the entire 50 rounds of WPA(Wolf) without a hitch.. :confused: The steel rounds were fired last, I almost didn't bother but did anyway. I tried some more brass after the steel fired but immediately started having feeding problems again.
    All totaled I shot 170 rounds
     
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