Different target location.

[Howland937]

That would be an upper CNS shot. Good luck. Everything else is wishful thinking or a waiting game.

Best chance in regards to being able to hit something important is what I meant. I know there are no sure things.

 

[ACES&8S]

Zipper shooting is something of a fantasy situation where your assailant is standing nice and still and fails to move after being shot the first time.

Yep, the fatal shot can still have a shot to send right back at you.
I say, just center mass and don't stop, repeat as necessary.

 

[bangswitch]

With a bit of tricky yes and no.
The Lungs are 80% void space. Now, the tissues of the lunges are 80% circulatory, both athlrotic and venal, but the dimensions are not great, per se. Now, pneumothorax is a legitimate debilitator, it's not always a reliable one.

The liver is as complicated as the Spleen--vascularly dense, but, unless the hepatic artery/vein or splenic artery/vein are pierced, the blood volume lost can be quite small. The critical zone on liver and spleen is perhaps the size of a dollar bill folded in half.

The human corpus is an amazing thing. It's very resistant to puncture wounds by design. That makes this business complicated.

The terms are actually arterial and venous. It's not all that complicated. I've seen more than my share of gunshot and shrapnel wounds, I was an O.R. Nurse in a Level 1 trauma center and a USAF Flight Nurse during Desert Storm. While the lungs might not look bloody, the chest cavity can be filling rapidly. There is more air space than vascular space, but the small bronchial vessels move a lot of blood. Fully half the heart's output is being channeled through the lungs, while the other half is sending it to the other major organs and body. A torso hit that doesn't cause a lot of bleeding is the exception rather than the rule. The spleen is always a bloody hit, just nicking it can be disastrous. Same goes for the kidneys. The liver may not spurt blood, but the entire body's supply circulates through it every 3-4 minutes, and certainly it's worse if one of the hepatic or portal vessels are punctured or lacerated.

 

[film495]

knowing what you're shooting at and why makes sense. to me, I'll shoot center of mass, if they don't stop or go down right away I'll shoot either higher or lower. if they are close, I'll shoot higher, if they are further away, the pelvic area is larger than the head and probably easier to hit. i can't really imagine someone really getting hit and having a whole blown in their sacrum or ilium, or a blown up hip joint - and do much. they certainly aren't going to get up and run or move very fast.

 

[bdickens]

On most paper targets, the ten ring is centered on the chest.
I think just below the belt buckle would be a better location, Many men can easily take a hard punch to their chest and not fall, where, a very light tap below the belt buckle will bring them to their knees.
There is the hard breastbone that has to be penetrated, so even a 9 mm, has a job to do..Where I think a 25 acp hit below the belt buckle would really get a guys attention.

I post this here for this naysayers than read to respond, rather than read to understand…they just love to jump in quickly to attack and disagree with a post. You know who you are.

Maybe, just maybe some of those naysayers actually know what they're talking about....

 

[jmorris]

There is the hard breastbone that has to be penetrated,

And a bunch of ribs, with lots of stuff harmed by bullet as well as bone fragments.

Just going through a bone isn’t much of a task. After the buzzards knock the meat off I can pass a .22lr through any bone on a pigs body. The areas where a .22 shuts them off are lots smaller though. So there is more to it than just busting bones.

I suppose intent would factor a lot into things. A hit it a foot, would likely “stop” someone, as far as advancing towards you. I guess pelvis hits could to and be more likely.