Disappointed with a CZ75B today.

[Thompsoncustom]

Easy fix would be to just go out and buy a comp hammer, Will fix a lot of the trigger problems and removes the Negative camming.

Or you could just mod the stock sear to remove the Negative camming and do a trigger job, pretty time consuming if you do a really detailed one but worth the time.

 

[JohnBT]

I see what's going on here. If a gun doesn't have a perfect trigger it has a bad one. There's no middle ground, if it's not perfect it's trash. I don't agree with this way of thinking at all.

When Glock triggers are called great, what is left for guns that actually have a great trigger? For instance, a Sig X-5 or a Sig P210-5 or -6.

 

[jmr40]

I've never handled a CZ with a good trigger. While I wouldn't call a Glock trigger good, especially in comparison to a good 1911 or S&W revolver, they are much better than any CZ I've ever fired.

 

[railroader]

As posted earlier on this thread get a hold of cajon gun works. Schmeky who posted in this thread well it's his shop. You can send your factory hammer, disconnector and strut as one unit. David will recut your hammer and send it back with an adjustable sear which makes the installation easy. With out his sear you would have to rework the factory sear or the factory safety for a recut hammer or even the cz custom competition hammer to work. His sear has a small allen screw for adjustment so there isn't any filing to do. I have one of his sears along with a cz custom hammer in my cz75sa and the trigger is really good. Mark

 

[HGUNHNTR]

The trigger will break in. CZ's have a reputation for accuracy, ergonomics and reliability....the triggers come along after they have been to the range a few times. Give the piece a chance man!

 

[JohnBT]

"they are much better than any CZ I've ever fired."

You need to try one of the old $349 Military model CZs made in '96 for a Turkish contract. Some of them ended up in the U.S. as a NIB screaming deal with hi-cap mags. Was the trigger as good as a Sig X-5? No. But then a Glock trigger isn't either, is it?

Speaking of breaking one in, the Sig P49/P210 I just bought for a shooter is so new that the trigger is stiff. These things were supposed to be used with holster wear, but everything is stiff and nearly totally untouched. It was made in '69 as best I can tell and is all but completely new. Do you think I should send it off for a trigger job?

And I am going to guess there aren't a lot of BHP trigger fans here.

John

 

[Mr.Blue]

Why do people complain so much about triggers? I've never met a trigger that I could not become proficient with, given practice. Accuracy, ergonomics, and reliability are my main concerns.

People complain about the M&P triggers, but I've gotten used to it. Eventually muscle memory kicks in and I am able to manipulate the trigger effectively. Lots of dry firing helps!

 

[1SOW]

I have experience with two models of full size DA/SA 75s.
OOB the triggers were rough and do have a long pull and reset compared to my Sig.
After about 500 rds the stock CZ triggers smoothed out a lot.
With some relatively inexpensive trigger work, they are both "superb". My 75B has approx. 6# DA and 2# SA pulls using weights to check them (I don't have a trigger gage). It has 50K rounds through it and is still reliable and very accurate.

I did have a trigger spring break at about 20K rds. The replacement spring was better made. I have broken two slide stops. One at around 20K rds and the second at about 40K (?) rds. No other failure problems.

My son's CZ Custom Shop worked Shadow has a slightly heavier pull, but has never had any failure of any kind. I shot it in a steel match last Sunday and it's a great pistol.

CGW/"schmeky" does great trigger work reasonable priced and offers inexpensive drop-in kits that really perform wonders on the trigger.
The CZ Custom Shop also does very good work on triggers.

If you prefer steel pistols , IMO CZ can be top-of-the-line in 9mm and 40 cal.

 

[Mr.Blue]

If you prefer steel pistols , IMO CZ can be top-of-the-line in 9mm and 40 cal.

The CZ 97B (45acp) is great too if you don't mind a bazooka. Great for home defense and targets, but a beyotch to carry.

 

[Bozwell]

A lot of CZ's should be considered a diamond in the rough when they're brand new. Some of the triggers are indeed gritty out of the box, but break them in and/or do a bit of work on them and you will end up with an absolutely fantastic gun. If you say you've never shot a CZ with a great trigger, I can easily say you haven't shot enough CZ's. If you want a CZ that will be nigh perfect out of the box, I'd recommend a custom shop CZ that's already had some work done to it. Rob at CZCustom does excellent work.

 

[MikeNice]

I have a P-07 with the Omega trigger system. It started out stagey and turned creepy in DA. Now it is smooth but heavy. SA is lovely. It isn't a 1911, but it is well above average. A good 1911 or SAA is about the only thing better in single action.

 

[CharlesT]

The one thing that probably flavored my sub conscious is my CZ-82...

It is my favorite firearm. It's got god know how many rounds through it. I've only owned it since April and I have put a little over 2000 rounds through it. It has a BEAUTIFUL trigger in it.

So, maybe I should pick one of these up and do the same. I really like the look of the high polish ones.


...I bought a S&W 29-3 the same day I shot the 75 so maybe that had something to do with it too...

 

[Pilot]

MikeNice wrote:

I have a P-07 with the Omega trigger system. It started out stagey and turned creepy in DA. Now it is smooth but heavy. SA is lovely. It isn't a 1911, but it is well above average.

I recently dry fired a P-07 in my LGS. I was very impressed with the Omega trigger in SA, and as the gun is designed to be switched to SA only and can be carried C&L, the DA isn't that important to me. I really like the P-07.

 

[Bozwell]

There are lots of reasons the CZ you shot could have had a rough trigger. With sufficient break-in and perhaps a bit of work though, they really can have fantastic triggers. And, in my experience, some take a bit longer than others to really smooth out. My Phantom was a bit rough out of the box and it took a lot of rounds and some work on my part and the custom shop's part to really get it as smooth as I wanted. On the other hand, my Shadow was fantastic from the start and the action job from the custom shop really just made it perfect.

If you do get one, I'd recommend shooting/dry firing it quite a bit to break it in before you do any work on it. That said, if you go with a shiny one, you may consider sending the hammer off to cajun gun works, where David can recut the hooks for you and give it a fantastic break with no camming. That'll let you get the advantages of the competition hammer while keeping the look of your shiny stainless hammer.

 

[Wishoot]

I have a P-07 with the Omega trigger system. It started out stagey and turned creepy in DA. Now it is smooth but heavy. SA is lovely. It isn't a 1911, but it is well above average. A good 1911 or SAA is about the only thing better in single action.

I've had the very same experience with my 75B Omega.

 

[BCRider]

My two are a Shadow and an older pre-b 75 that a previous owner put a match hammer into. So both of mine are excellent triggers.

I've also tried out a P-07 Duty with the Omega action. When new it was as rough and creepy as you describe. But when I got to shoot the same gun again recently after it had seen literally thousands of rounds through it (it's a rental range gun) the trigger was smooth as silk although it still had the creep. Perhaps if the 75b you shot was one of the new Omega actioned guns it may explain the poor feel. I've not seen many reports of folks impressed with the Omega action. At least not as they come out of the box.

But to each their own. You and the others saying that you prefer your GLock and other striker fired triggers aren't wrong or right by any means. You all just like something different from folks like me. I can live with that

I can shoot Glocks and M&P's and other striker fired guns OK. But I just don't like the long springy trigger travel. As a result all my semis are either DA/SA or SA hammer guns.