Disbelieving 911 operator ignored home invasion call

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Disbelieving 911 operator ignored home invasion call
10:15 PM CDT on Thursday, April 29, 2004

By BRETT SHIPP / WFAA-TV


A Fort Worth family is demanding that a 911 operator be fired after she failed to respond to a potential life-threatening situation.

Police are now investigating - and taking very seriously - the concerns of the Diaz family. They placed a 911 call while someone was attempting to break into their home, and they now say the operator blew them off during that time.

The kicked-in front screen door provides a sign that someone tried to break into the Diaz home two weeks ago. However, the best evidence may be the terror in the voice of Jeannette Diaz, 14, who placed the 911 call.

"There's people outside with knives," Diaz told the operator. "They are breaking down the door."

Diaz's mother can be heard in the background. Both had retreated to a back bedroom for protection, hoping police could hurry and provide the rest.

"I was scared that they had a gun and I was real scared that they were going to shoot," Diaz said later. "I didn't know what to do."

Her fear turned to anger, though, when the operator began questioning the validity of the call.

"OK, who were they, because strangers don't just come bang down your door with knives," the operator told Diaz. "Do you have a brother or father there who they were looking for?"

"I don't know, they were just screaming," Diaz replied.

"Ma'am, you need to be honest with me," said the operator.

Seconds later, after the would-be attackers left, the 911 operator decided the call did not merit a follow up by police.

"If they come back, please give us a call back," the operator said. "OK?"

Twenty minutes later, when brother Jose Diaz came home, he placed an angry follow-up call to 911.

"They thought we were playing, and we weren't playing," he said. "They messed up our door and we are over here waiting."

Then, in contrast to the first operator, the second operator responded.

"OK, we'll get out there, try not to touch too much," the operator told Jose Diaz.

The police arrived at the Diaz home 10 minutes later - not soon enough to quell the anger that still resides at the Diaz home.

"I was getting mad because she didn't believe me," Jeannette Diaz said. "We could have died that day if she kept (asking) questions ... I was telling her the truth."

The Diaz family complained to Fort Worth police, who are now wrapping up their investigation.

The preliminary results? The first operator did not do her job.

"They are not in a position, or shouldn't be in a position, where they should be questioning someone's honesty," said Ft. Worth Police Lt. Abdul Pridgen.


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I saw this on the news tonight. Just makes me get kinda angry :fire: especially because I live in Fort Worth. It also makes me glad that I got into guns for home defense 1st and pleasure shooting 2nd.

Nik
 
Long ago and far away...

When I was teaching CPR, the accepted drill was to advise students that they should not play 20 questions with 911. Tell dispatchers "Man down, CPR in progress," give the location, repeat once and get off the phone. By policy, the dispatcher MUST dispatch. If you allow yourself to be engaged in Q&A, you risk the life of your victim by being on the phone instead of giving aid and you may provide opportunity for a dispatcher who is (your choice of description here ;) ) to find cause to lethally delay or deny dispatch. This certainly was accurate advice in the jurisdiction of the small police department where I worked. I will leave to others whether to use such tactics to get a quick response in other than a CPR situation.
 
They are pretty OK around here. Usually the dispacher wants to find out what KIND of emergency your having and then an adress and call-back number. Then they put you on with the dispacher of whatever emergency service is appropriate and you talk directly to the actual dispacher for the police/fire/ems. Seems to work much better this way.
 
There was just a thread on here where folks wanted the dispatcher to tell a person that was calling in a possible crime, to just shut up...as in allow the dispatcher to decide if there was an actual crime. Funny how it goes both ways, if you want dispatch to decide and not have an officer "hassle" anyone that might or might not be breaking the law, the officer has to go to the scene, make it safe, and do some investigating. When dispatchers are allowed to evaluate the veracity of each call, there will be errors just as there will be inconveniences for those that are not breaking any laws.
 
sounds as if the system used is at fault there.

in the UK (or London at least) when someone makes a 999 call for Police they are connected to the Information Room at New Scotland Yard; they are first asked where they are calling from and what is going on. That information is then placed on a CAD report and sent to the relevant Borough, which dispatches a unit (or units) while the IR operator carries on with more detailed questioning. Frequently, we get there before the operator at IR has finished with the call.
 
In TN policy is to get the address, phone number calling immediate pertinate info, ie what is going on, dispatch and then play 20 questions to update the responders as they are already in route.

The cold facts are that 911 does not beam medcom or police directly to your living room so you best be able to defend your self, do some basic medical first aid or provide CPR or the heimlich until they arrive.

Any dispatcher/calltaker who doesn't take every call seriously enough to at least dispatch somebody to check it out should be fired on the spot. Sure there are a lot of crazy people who might be jacking around with the system and there are a lot of people who call the police/medical for reasons they should not but it is not the dispatchers place to make that decision it is the place of the first responding unit.
 
The police turned up at my door once a few years ago in response to a 911 placed from my house. Turns out it was one of my daughters who couldn't find her mother, (she was cleaning the en suite bathroom at the other end of the house), daughter, aged 8 panicked and called 911 as we had told her to do if anyone was in trouble. All was well, mother surfaces upon hearing male voices in the house, daughter is shaken but relieved and life went on.

We live in a small town so the police knew us and in talking to them they told us that when a 911 is placed they MUST respond, don't know if that is universal or not but sure as hell works for me had something really been wrong. Just like having a gun, it is better for them to turn up and not be needed than the other way around. I don't want some dispatcher deciding whether or not my family is safe.
 
The lady that lives behind me called 911 at 2am over some youths in the street spinning donuts and drinking, loud music and such. Well the dispatcher told her they would not respond because we live in a private area. Gee they could just go out the back door of the Police Station our houses are less than 75 yards from them. Meanwhile the guy next door and myself have a meeting out front and we ran them off, he calls 911 and the PD show up 25 minutes later. When are air headed people going to learn you have to defend yourself. Of course when she complained the PD just told her the old story about not being able to protect everyone all the time. :D
 
In Ft. Worth, if you aren't White, you'd better talk like you are. Ever notice how much faster police response is in White, affluant suburbs?
 
FedDC: There was just a thread on here where folks wanted the dispatcher to tell a person that was calling in a possible crime, to just shut up...as in allow the dispatcher to decide if there was an actual crime. Funny how it goes both ways, if you want dispatch to decide and not have an officer "hassle" anyone that might or might not be breaking the law, the officer has to go to the scene, make it safe, and do some investigating. When dispatchers are allowed to evaluate the veracity of each call, there will be errors just as there will be inconveniences for those that are not breaking any laws.

A well-dressed gentleman standing around quietly reading a book carrying openly in an open-carry state is a far sight different than "someone's trying to break down my door."

If you can't figure that out, you're beyond help.
 
Has anyone seen the Brinks Home Alarm system commercial? They show a bad guy with a crow bar breaking the glass on a door to a house. The alarm goes off and he starts to run away. Meanwhile, they quickly switch to a mother and two young daughters in the house. The mother says, "It's ok. It's ok". Then the phone rings. The mother, who has not retreated into a safe room with her daughters, picks up the phone. It's Brinks. They ask her if she is alright, and then let her know they have phoned the police.
The mother hangs up and tells her girls, "That was Brinks. It's going to be OK".

My wife and I just stared at each other for 10 seconds, then started laughing. You folks can certainly guess why we started laughing. I do have a question though. Would the cops be any more likely to respond quickly to a Brinks call than an ordinary 911 call? Just curious.
 
In Ft. Worth, if you aren't White, you'd better talk like you are. Ever notice how much faster police response is in White, affluant suburbs?

Actually I've noticed the oposite. Of course maybe i sound REALLY white or something but, ive called 911 in neighborhoods where i was the minority and still had a pretty quick response. The cops tend to spend a lot of time in bad neighborhoods anyways so your chances of having a cop close by isnt all that bad.
 
This situation is a lawyer's dream come true...:evil:

And this is why, if you ever call 911, you should mention two little words that will get the cavalry in gear (according to a few LEO friends of mine)...


..."shots fired".

(Of course, in that situation, there really would be shots fired--by me. :fire: )
 
Hey I thought everyone in Texas has a gun? Maybe they need to do some shopping?

It sounds like the people who were trying to break in were suicidal. Anytime you try a home invasion and lose the element of surprise, I would bet your odds of surviving or not being shot are less than that of playing russian roulette. In a gun friendly state like Texas, if you take your time kicking in 6 doors, behind at least one of them is going to be a scared gun owner who is preparing to empty whatever he's got towards you at point blank range.
 
"quote"if you take your time kicking in 6 doors, behind at least
one of them is going to be a scared gun owner who is preparing to empty
whatever he's got towards you at point blank range."quote"

Instead of 1 to 6,in Texas I would go with a 6 to 1 ratio!! :evil:
 
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