Discontinued 300rum ammo?

[DirtyDiesel]

Hey guys I bought 5 boxes of 300rum from a local add. All factory loads, I can't find the ballistics on some of them. Here is what it is:

2 boxes of Remington 200gr nosler partition
2 boxes of federal 165gr nosler solid base
1 box of 150gr swift scirocco bonded

I have searched and can't find the FPS on the 200gr or 165gr...help point me in the right direction please!? Can't find these for sale anywhere or specs. Am I just not looking in the right place?

 

[Kachok]

Midway has the Swift Scirocco II listed but they are sold out as with everything else nowadays, they expect to have more in stock 4/1/13, and no that is no early April fool's joke.
Your 150gr is listed as 3450fps, but user reviews say it run faster through their chrono.

 

[DirtyDiesel]

Yeah I was able to find the 150s info on midway but nothing at all on the 165gr and 200gr. That's why I was wondering if it was discontinued

 

[Kachok]

Sorry not an Ultra Mag fan I could not tell you, but I have not seen solid base in a factory load in quite some time in any other caliber.

 

[DirtyDiesel]

Maybe I'll have to call them. Here is part of the box he cut out and put in the ammo can

 

[MCMXI]

I have searched and can't find the FPS on the 200gr or 165gr...help point me in the right direction please!? Can't find these for sale anywhere or specs. Am I just not looking in the right place?

The PR300UM2 appears to have been discontinued. The equivalent product is RS300UM2 which uses a Swift A-Frame PSP 200gr bullet at 3,035 fps. Incidentally, the 200gr A-Frame load is Power Level III.

 

[DirtyDiesel]

Got some info off "long rang hunting" forum...incase anyone in the future stumbles across this thread with the same question, here is what was said:

Both of those loads are no longer manufactured. You might be able to find older ballistics charts for Federal and Remington that would have them in full detail.

I found one Remington chart using that same product code, but they'd changed the bullet to a Swift A-Frame 200 gr. I couldn't find a chart for the NP, but I know they did exist...

The Swift round ballistics were listed as follows:
(Values from Muzzle to 500 yds.)

RS300UM2 200 Swift A-Frame™ PSP 9 1/2 M (primer type)

Velocity: 3032 2791 2562 2345 2138 1942
Energy: 4083 3459 2916 2442 2030 1675

I found a comment by a shooter who'd chrono'ed that Remington 200 gr. NP load. He said he was getting 3190 fps MV consistently, which sounds mighty stout for a factory load. It could be true though. Several years ago Federal was also loading up some mighty hot ammo that they've since taken off the market. Nosler's website says that bullet has a 0.481 BC. You could plug that BC and Velocity into the Ballistics calculator above and get a good rough estimate of whatever you want to know.

There's a discrepancy between Remington's BC data for the 200 gr. Swift A-Frame.
Remington says it's 0.395; Swift says it's 0.444. I called Swift about this one time, asking about my .300WM load. They swear their BC is a true 0.444. Remington gave me a wishy washy reply to my e-mail question about the discrepancy, but said their bullet was the same as in the Swift catalog, except theirs has a custom cannelure position. There are a few different methods of determining BC, and word on the street is, bullet makers often use the one that gives their bullets the highest on paper, not necessarily most accurate.

I found your Federal load listed in their 2004 ballistics chart with the following info:

P300RUMS1 300 Rem. Ultra Magnum 165 10.69 Nosler Solid Base BT (216 Primer)
Values from Muzzle to 500 yds.
Velocity:
3350 3110 2890 2670 2470 2270
Energy:
4110 3550 3050 2615 2230 1890

Again, you could punch some of these number into the G7 above to get the full, long range estimates, but like the other members said, you'll never know how they do in your gun without a chrony. Knowing in your gun could be the difference between kill, miss or needless nasty wound at longer ranges.

Needless to say, your .300 RUM is adequate... LOL!