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Discussion: Recurve bows vs. compound bows

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arabianights

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i'm interested in pickuping up archery as hobby and would like to hear some advice.

my main concern is what are the any advantage/disadvantage one type vs. the other?
 
I grew up with a recurve, so I'm biased. But a few years ago I bought a compound, and just can't get into it. No soul, too mechanical. I have been told that they are easier to shoot accurately though. I shoot my recurves bare, no sights, no rest. Just feels alot more natural, and satisfying to me. If I were you I would see if you could find someone to let you shoot each and see what you like better. Your intended use may change your mind also. Will you eventually hunt? 3D? Or just screwing around in the bach yard.
 
I own and shoot both a recurve and compound and agree with floorit that recurves are much more natural to shoot and can be very lethal with the right amount of practice, with emphasis on the practice. If you want to shoot for fun or sport, recurve is your best bet; but it is not something you can just pick up and shoot with any accuracy without a good deal of experience and development of good shooting technique. A good archer with sticks can shoot arrows instinctively and doesn't need to worry about ranging the target and picking pins and whatnot. I would not recommend hunting with a recurve until you become confident enough that you wont botch the shot and wound the animal in the guts or something. I use a Mathew's Legacy compound for everything and its about as easy to shoot as a rifle.

tl;dr recurve for sport and compound for hunting unless you are a great shot
 
I haven't shot my bow at an animal for a few years but can recall a few times where, between drawing and release, I had to wait 5-30 seconds for my target to step out from cover or turn away? A compound bow allows that shot to be much more controlled than a recurve.
That said, shooting a recurve well is a very satisfying pursuit.
 
Neither, get a longbow. :) I have a fiberglass recurve and had a compound. Like the other guys I just couldn't get into the compound. I now make my own wooden longbows and a few recurves. Longbows tend to be smoother and faster than recurves because of the distribution of mass. If you want a hobby get a longbow or recurve. If you want to occasionally make accurate shots at longer ranges, ie seasonal hunting, get a compound. One large factor for me was the physical weight of the bow. A compound bow can become heavy and a little cumbersome whereas a good wooden longbow or fiberglass recurve can be measured in ounces.

Hope it helps,
John
 
I started to bow hunt so I could have a longer season. With a recurve I couldn't hit the ground with 3 tries. A compound bow was easy to pick up and got good with it pretty quick. I'm a terrible judge of distance, so a range finder and set pins increase the chance of me making a connection. Most of the time I leave the range finder in the truck by accident.:eek:

Don't be like my friend who started out his first time bow hunting by raking the string down his forearm with his first practice shot.:what: Ouch! It swelled up like an Alabama tick.
 
Traditional archery, longbow, recurve, primitive are all a lot of fun on a long learning curve. If you choose the correct bow for your strength drawing it is not a problem. A very good book on it is Instinctive Shooting by G Fred Asbell. I suggest you buy it and read it before you make any choices. As for compound devices, not called bows by anyone knowledgeble in archery. Are designed to draw easily thus ideal for the puny, females and old women and cripples. They are gadget oriented and you are a slave to yardage. While trad bows have had sights on them long before the c/pound device was even a twinkle in the satan that invented its eye, they are not commonly used with them today. REAL archery is a mans sport and hunting with a REAL bow is a mans hunt. c/pounds are neither.
 
Make mine a Recurve please...

Like many of the others here, I grew up with recurves. Started in 1958 with a small Ben Pearson Jet (still have it too) and hunted bunnies with .38 Spl cased glued onto the point to serve as blunts. Been hunting with recurves ever since. Got a few from the old days (Wing, Darton, Bear) and will never part with them. Have taught archery in the past both for pay and in the Scouts. I have one, repeat, 1, compound and it is an old one and I use it for 'String Walking' style shooting only.

With that said, a compound is easier to shoot if you're new to the sport. It is easier to hold. You have sights to aid you in getting on target and as you get to where you are putting arrows in the bull you are much more likely to remain in this sport. Frustration from repeated misses have caused more bows to go to the pawnshop than any other reason. :banghead:

My suggestion, since you want to learn is to go to a proshop near you and talk to their bowtech. Get his advice on what you may need and have him measure your draw and such. Very important to have someone that knows bows to get you started. If you simply go to Wallmart, buy a bow, some arrows, and other items and try on your own, you may have a bad time and want to chuck the whole mess and miss out on some great times ahead of you. Bows must be fitted to you. Arrows must be matched to the bow and your draw length. Etc....

Well this old arrow flinger is now stepping down off his rickedy old soapbox:)

Wade
 
I own 3 compounds and 2 recurves. For shooting with the family and just plain enjoyment I almost always use a recurve. I also use a recurve for bowfishing; however, I prefer a compound for deer and hog hunting.

45-70 Ranger had some very good advice that could save you a lot of frustration and money. He knows what he is talking about. You really need to get a bow with your draw length and proper arrows that match the bow and your draw length.

JMHO. Hope this helps.
JD
 
In my state the legal minimum bow draw weight for all our critters is 40#, this includes elk and moose. I hunt elk with a 49# longbow due to a shoulder injury and feel more than sure that my arrow will do a complete pass thru. I know of several elk killed with bows in the 42-45# range and they reported similar results. If your broadhead isn't scarry sharp and your arrow tuned perfectly then a 100# bow may not be sufficent!!!!!!
Right across the river in Oregon the minimum for elk is 50# and deer 40# go figure. FRJ
 
It's actually more true that draw weight has less to do with penetration.
Arrow penetration attributes more to momentum, which is the mass of the arrow (nock to head) x speed.
The speed of an arrow that is lower with an arrow tuned properly for the bow (weight, Front of center, diameter, surface finish, spine, etc) will out penetrate a fast/light arrow not properly tuned. And, in most cases, a heavier arrow shot at lower speed will outpenetrate a well tuned fast/light arrow.
State game agencies use poundage as a law by which you must abide because they don't know any other simple method. Not everyone can sit down and do a physics equation for penetration.

However, in cases of animals as small as deer, the resistance created by the body is sufficiently low (due to the narrowness of the torso and small/easily broken ribs) that the pass through is very common even with fast/light projectiles or slow/light projectiles, if the head is sufficiently sharp and of good material, has a proper construction, and the front of center of the arrow is in the right spot.
In fact, if one wants an ideal setup, one should start with a broadhead of ideal construction and work backward, even matching the bow to the arrow. That's how ideal mechanics are arrived at in archery, but usually we just get a bow and fit arrows to it, which is good too.
The big danger with a slower shooting bow is that the deer will jump the string. Your arrow then goes where you aimed it, but there's no longer a deer there. :p
Part of the proliferation of compounds owes to deer jumping the string, in addition to it requiring less daily ritual to master. Faster arrows get there quicker and deer have a relatively fixed reaction window like most vertebrates.
 
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I just lost my recurve and compund bows in an divorce. I paid $25.00 for the 45 lb recurve in the mid 80's. The compund bow was adjustable from 30 to 50 lbs. I could shoot that rcurve well, but literally couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with the cpound in spite of having adjustable sights. I prefer the rcurve just as muzzle loaders should be sidelocks.
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My point mainly was that those bows aren't enough to kill game and really a 35 lb. bow isn't either IMO.
A 35lb bow is plenty to kill a deer or even an elk. The commonly exchanged wisdom of the last 30 years or so has forwarded the figures of kinetic energy and draw weight as benchmarks of lethality in traditional and compound archery. But, there are quite a number of people (that understand the physics) who agree that momentum is the true measure, since energy imparted and conserved is what makes penetration happen.

The arc of the arrow does not suddenly become rainbow like. And, there's nothing unethical about using a 35# recurve.

As for the subject: I'll link some of Dr. Ashby's work so you can either read it and increase your knowledge or not.
http://www.alaskabowhunting.com/Ashby-On-Arrow-Lethality-Part-5-W18.aspx
 
I enjoy compounds, but there's something liberating about my uber lightweight long bow and a few simple arrows in a leather quiver.
 
Recurves shoot more instinctually with less sighting & mental effort. Compounds require more thinking & calculation. To me, it's like the difference between shotgun shooting (feel) & rifle shooting (aim). If I was a beginning hobbyist archer who wanted to enjoy the art, I'd go recurve. If I was looking to fill the freezer with venison, I'm leaning more toward a compound.
 
Once mastered a compound is much easier to use. I have several of each and can pick up one of the compounds after not using one for months and hit where I aim with the 1st shot. Kinda like riding a bicycle. Once you master it, you really never forget how.

But I really like my recurve's better. That is what I started on and I just like them better. But it takes constant practice to be good. If I go more than a few days without shooting a few arrows at a target my skill level declines rapidly.
 
Yet, IMHO, like flying an aircraft. It's easier to learn the basics of flight in a fixed wing (simple=recurve) and then graduate to the more versatile rotor wing (complex=compound).
 
Once mastered the compound is easier to use!!!!!! This is exactly the whole problem!!!!!!! Compounds are easier and used by those that are too lazy, physically impared or just looking for an easy way out. They should be relegated to the rifle season where they belong!!!! Archery seasons were initally set up using traditional bows and they were long and not many animals were taken. Now the compounds are equaling the gun hunters in percentage of animals killed and this leads to justified complaints from the gun hunters and the traditional archers.I know lots of pounders that think nothing of taking a 100yard shot or even further and that isn't what archery season was set up for . If you want to shoot something with a sight and a trigger assisted by a range finder go to the gun season where you belong. FRJ
 
Its been a while since I've picked up a bow, but I always shot recurves.


I think that the main advantages of the compound are let off, draw stop, and compactness. You should be starting out with a lower poundage bow so that you develop good form first, so let off isn't really all that important, and I think you'll find it easier to find an anchor point (physical spot on your face that you draw the bowstring back to every single time) that you like if you don't have the draw stop and let off dictating your draw length to you. Compactness, while nice, isn't all that important if you're not hunting.

The advantages of a recurve bow is cost, simplicity, and I think its just a little easier to get the basics down. A recurve bow isn't all that hard to unstring or take down, but I've never tried it with a compound. One of the things I like about the recurve it does tend to shoot in more of an arc (it is ARChery, not FLATery, afterall) which, when you inevitably miss the target, will make the arrows much easier to find (ask me how I know).

Like anything, you need to master the basics if you want to shoot well, and I think its easier to master the basics with a recurve. Compound bows don't let you experiment as much with draw length, which will factor into your anchor point, which will be a big part of accuracy. I think that the greater length of a longbow also makes it easier to shoot it with fingers instead of a trigger release, and I think its easier to learn the basics of follow through using a fingertab or glove instead of a trigger release.

With a recurve you have to hold the entire weight of the pull back while you aim. Because of that the biggest trick to shooting a recurve is to shoot very quickly after drawing the bow because your muscles will tire and start to shake within just a few seconds if you're holding back a 50 lb. recurve.

I'm going to disagree with you on that one. Yes its easier to hold a compound at full draw, but its not that hard with a recurve. The idea of shooting quickly being the trick to accuracy is also incorrect. I can see where you're going with that train of thought, and you're in the right direction, but there's another, better way to increase accuracy by reducing shaking: correct form and practice. If you're using correct form, you should be using skeletal strength to hold everything up, and while it won't really be easy, it won't be as hard, and you won't shake as much. You want to take your time when your shooting, and you want your release to be smooth. Think of the release in archery like trigger control. Do you try and do it as quickly as you can, or pull it straight back smoothly?

On a related note, I think that 50# may be a bit much for someone just getting started. I used a 20# for years, and still use it as my "plinking" bow. A lighter poundage bow will make the draw, release, and follow through stages of shooting that much easier to get down. You need to do it correctly before you can do it quickly, or in the case of archery, with a heavier bow. A light bow works just fine for most applications, which brings me to;

My point mainly was that those bows aren't enough to kill game and really a 35 lb. bow isn't either IMO.

I may be wrong, but I believe Howard Hill (He's kind of like the Jeff Cooper of archery) once said that there is nothing in North America that can not be taken with a 32# long bow. I'm not saying that its practical, or even ethical, but it is doable, and if I'm going to take anyone's word for it, its Howard Hill's. (here's a link to his hunting record: http://www.howardhillarchery.com/the-legends-story-4.html )

There are a lot of different styles of archery, and I think that you can do more of them with a recurve than you can a compound. Field archery is one in particular where I think a recurve would be easier.

Don't get me wrong, a compound is on my list if I ever get back into archery and want to try bowhunting, but there will always be a special place in my heart for the recurve bow.

Arabiannights, What part of the country/world are you in? I'm in western WA, and if you wanted to give archery a try, I wouldn't mind working with you a little at the range.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
No offense but I tend to take his word for it over someone I just met on the net.

None taken. Like I said, I've been out of the game for a while.

That and there's the fact that I put his technique into practice and it made a big improvement in my own ability to hit what I was shooting at

That's the key, isn't it; how well it works. I think I may have been splitting hairs and misreading what you originally posted. By "shooting quickly," I originally thought you meant that you would fire as soon as you brought the bow to full draw. I think firing in 3-5 seconds is pretty reasonable if you're really taking your time and aiming. You're right, muscle fatigue can be a huge problem, and its ruined my fair share of shots, but there are ways to lessen the fatigue, and if you start small and work your way up, it shouldn't be too big of an issue.

I think that as long as you're not rushing the shot, shooting quickly doesn't hurt.

That being said, I think that regardless of what form or type of bow you're using, one would be better off starting with a lower poundage bow, maybe something in the 20-25# range before getting into the 32-36# range.

Really though, I think we are just splitting hairs.

Chris "the Kayak-Man" Johnson
 
Nowadays the proper methods of holding at full draw involve using back tension, instead of arm strength and the relatively smaller shoulder muscles.
The back muscles take much longer to go into oxygen debt and fatigue, and provide much more stability for the shot.

However, still a popular traditional shooting style, the faster release method is still used by a number of recurve and longbow archers.
Some people who like to stand and hold the bow for a long time will develop target panic and shoot poorly. Back tension let you relax into the shot at full draw and take your time.
More than one way to skin a cat.

Check out Jim Powell using back tension and taking time to be precise:
http://youtu.be/sIAqX7kvpRc
 
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I have both as well and I can't really say much that hasn't already been said. I prefer shooting the recurve and I think recurves are much prettier to look at and more fun to shoot. However, I use the compound to hunt with since I can't practice enough where I live to shoot in confidence at a deer. My compound though, I can practice with it much less and feel confident shooting at deer because of the sights...it still takes practice though, just not as much to be proficient. I would hate to wound a deer because I couldn't practice enough with my recurve.
 
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