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Do Boomers consider themselves lucky regarding guns?

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You must be referring to the Gun Control Act of 1968. In 1968, the oldest of the Boomers were only 22 years old, so they weren't responsible for that. Blame for that goes to the Depression Generation and the Silent Generation.

(Minimum age for voting then was 21, so November 1968 was the first general election in which Boomers could have voted -- and by that time the GCA had already been passed.)

Anyway, the GCA '68 wouldn't have been passed were it not for the assassinations of Martin Luther King and Bobby Kennedy.

I was referring to many gun control laws, of which that was only one. 1986 was another at the federal level.
But not voting does not absolve the boomers from culpability on that one. They were responsible for several years of violent social upheaval at the end of the 60's, which also set a background that encouraged that kind of legislation. Not as bad as their later actions, but to say they had no hand in that would be dishonest.
 
Not a boomer, but I turned 18 in 1985 (I could buy rifles and shotguns) and 21 in 1988 (now I could buy handguns). Of course when I lost my union job as a grocery checker (I sold beer to a minor, ooops! o_O) I got another job pulling in $4.25 an hour working in a warehouse, so I couldn’t buy much.

After getting my LE job I caught the 1990’s CMP Garand era, Chinese made SKS rifles selling for 95 bucks by the pallet load, and even the end of the “barrel o’ rifles” in most gun stores. Once cops went to autos you almost had to give 4” service grade .38’s away, they were everywhere. These great times lasted for quite a while. Heck, I bought my US Property-marked, Lend-Lease Savage .303 No 4 Mk I for 99 bucks at Big 5 Sporting Goods in 2004. (They’re commanding a pretty penny now!)

With wages up and competition keeping prices somewhat stable, I bet the average Joe can buy more guns now, of a wider variety, than he could back then. :)

Stay safe.
 
Not a boomer, but I turned 18 in 1985 (I could buy rifles and shotguns) and 21 in 1988 (now I could buy handguns). Of course when I lost my union job as a grocery checker (I sold beer to a minor, ooops! o_O) I got another job pulling in $4.25 an hour working in a warehouse, so I couldn’t buy much.

After getting my LE job I caught the 1990’s CMP Garand era, Chinese made SKS rifles selling for 95 bucks by the pallet load, and even the end of the “barrel o’ rifles” in most gun stores. Once cops went to autos you almost had to give 4” service grade .38’s away, they were everywhere. These great times lasted for quite a while. Heck, I bought my US Property-marked, Lend-Lease Savage .303 No 4 Mk I for 99 bucks at Big 5 Sporting Goods in 2004. (They’re commanding a pretty penny now!)

With wages up and competition keeping prices somewhat stable, I bet the average Joe can buy more guns now, of a wider variety, than he could back then. :)

Stay safe.
I too am a gen x. And you are absolutely right. The prices and selection of guns now is amazing. However, $199 got you something you could really, truly feel good about 40 years ago. Even at 4x that price today, I'm shaking my head at what you get for the money.
 
Back to the OP question.
I am not a boomer, so lets start with that.
However, I do consider the boomers lucky in almost every regard, firearms and otherwise. Despite inheriting what was mostly a wealthy and prosperous nation, they managed to squander it and leave it far worse for their children. While they are not solely responsible, or individually all responsible, they more than any other generation must take the blame for what happened.
Besides the issues of affordability, boomers were responsible for much of the control laws that we are now saddled with and unlikely to ever get rid of.
Not a student of history or political science, eh? I've come to expect that kind of thinking from the younger generations, who don't seem to be overly inclined to fix what they think is wrong, other than
"peaceful" protests in the streets and sending The Squad to Congress. Take away their smartphones and they won't be able to find their way to the nearest Starbucks or GameStop. Anyway, I gotta admit that when I saw a thread posted with the now pejorative term "boomer," I expected the de rigueur boomer-bashing to commence much sooner.

Heck, I bought my US Property-marked, Lend-Lease Savage .303 No 4 Mk I for 99 bucks at Big 5 Sporting Goods in 2004.
Co-worker had a buddy who worked at a local Big 5, who'd alert him whenever they got a new batch of mil-surp rifles in. We'd get the pick of the lot. Those were some great deals.

With wages up and competition keeping prices somewhat stable, I bet the average Joe can buy more guns now, of a wider variety, than he could back then.
Wait, I thought we squandered all the good things and made life "far worse?"
 
I was referring to many gun control laws, of which that was only one. 1986 was another at the federal level.
But FOPA '86 was supposed to be pro-gun! (Never mind that it included the poison-pill Hughes Amendment.) I blame the NRA and Reagan for that fiasco.

On balance and in retrospect, the pro-gun forces should have left well enough alone in 1986.

The AWB of '94 would be a better example of restrictions, but that was eventually undone (expired).
 
The AWB of '94 would be a better example of restrictions, but that was eventually undone (expired).

Thankfully, since it was just another bad example of restrictions that would not stop crime etc., but only hassle law abiding gun owners.
 
https://www.hagerty.com/valuation-tools/austin~healey/3000/1959/1959-austin~healey-3000-mk_i_bn7

Like all the "cool cats", Dad had a 1959 Austin Healey 3000.

We had a blast tooling around town in that thing.
1961 and along comes THAT THING, the dreaded little sister. The gun had to go and they boring Pontiac Bonneville family sedan arrived.


Dad swapped of the AH for $50 and an 8yo Rem 870. He didn't have a shotgun or any other gun, for that matter.

In today's money; $60k car for $500 cash and a $700 shotgun.

Jump ahead 30 years, I bought a Python for $350 and sold $650.

This is why I extremely rarely sell a firearm.
 
I'm not entirely clear on where the cutoff is for being a boomer. From what the interwebs say, I'm actually Gen X, having missed that cutoff by about 5 years. Right now, prices are still awfully high, but a few years ago, I said that we were currently in a Golden Age of Handguns. In particular, of CC guns. The selection that's (theoretically) available is amazing. Five years ago, I was able to go out on lunch, buy a Shield 1.0 for a deeply discounted price (because 2.0s were about to drop), be back at my desk before my lunch hour ended, and get a bunch of free stuff from S&W just for showing them proof of purchase. I'm not sure if we're still in that GA or not.

Yeah the line between Boom and X can be a bit fuzzy. The way I see it, Boomers have retired and Xers are still workin'. No matter their real age. :evil:
 
70s, bro. But the guns, music and chicks good stuff did bleed over into the 80s... (except for disco)
Nope Born in 47, grew up in 50's and 60's. The peak of civilization. Oh, the memories. You had music that you could actually dance with. Everyone pretty much drag raced whatever they had. From Old Flathead coupes to 409 Chevies, 406 Fords, 421 Ponchos. Dodges in various forms. The advent of muscle cars, Camaros and Mustangs.
As far as guns, they were more expensive in proportion to income. And they weren't as accurate. I think we are in the golden age of guns now. I remember that I had to borrow old guns to hunt. Buying a new gun was a big deal for many of us.
 
No doubt. I drive a 66 F100 and a 79 F150. Plus mustangs from 86 -2004. The 352 in the 66 will destroy my 400CI 79 even with a 1 gear handicap and no electronics at all.. Id say 60s was golden age for cars. By the mid 70s cars sucked. By late 70s our 400 CI Ford was making close to 150 Hp and getting 12 MPG.

Hell in 75 a Covette was way under 200 HP. Jamming to Dancing Queen. Nothing golden about that. Lol

I actually own a shop. I make a living off of midlife crisis "golden age muscle cars". They are slow, hard on fuel, handle awful and people pay double for them what they could get a new Mustang or Camaro with 400+HP, a warranty, and heated seats and steering wheel...... I drive old cars because it's free advertising. Lol. I figure if they know I can keep a 79 Ford with the worst engine Ford ever built on the road and pulling after 40 years then I can fix anything. Lol. Plus I like the smells... lol. Traction control, ABS, seat belts.....all for sissies. It's comical when people drive my old vehicles. They remember how bad they really were. No PS. No PB. No tilt. No AC. No syncronizers, no electric choke. Lol. Can't reach the pedals?....grow a few inches or get taller shoes

Much like the old guns people pay so much for. SpAS 12. BREN 10. Etc etc. Weren't even good when they were good. Now people wish they could find one. Lol.

People tend to forget the bad parts. They forget why they ditched those things as soon as they could.
When I got out of the Army I bought a 68 Camaro. Great car and I still miss it. I have a 2001 Z-28 that is better in every way.
 
Everything was either less money or old and unwanted back then. But wages were low as well, so it was all relative...
I was 15 in this picture, bought that old Harley Davidson 45 for 50 bucks. I had a Ruger Standard 22 I traded for at that time as well! I always had jobs and bought what I wanted when I wanted. Move out at 18, get your own place, pay your own bills, no help from mom & dad, you were on your own. Make it or break it in life. Still riding that old iron and buying old guns!
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Everything was either less money or old and unwanted back then. But wages were low as well, so it was all relative...
I was 15 in this picture, bought that old Harley Davidson 45 for 50 bucks. I had a Ruger Standard 22 I traded for at that time as well! I always had jobs and bought what I wanted when I wanted. Move out at 18, get your own place, pay your own bills, no help from mom & dad, you were on your own. Make it or break it in life. Still riding that old iron and buying old guns!
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Had to say goodbye to alot of dad's things due to a very vindictive and spiteful sister. There was no will and my dad despised my sister. Hated her liberal guts. When she found out there wasn't a will she dug in like a tick. I lost a 1947 knucklehead and a 1948 luscombe 8F because of her. And now over 300 guns have to go to auction because she is so bitter and won't accept any bid I offer to buy on anything. To say I am p%$$@d is an understatement. My dad was a "boomer". The generation I will forever respect.
 
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Yep. That seems to now be accepted as the most accurate year range. The division wasn't so clear 20 years ago. Besides that, I still stand by my other comment. :evil:

About retirement? I am retired having been born in the 50s. I think the boomers born in the 60s mostly are still working. I think the millennials are retired on active duty.
 
I really don't get why we have these threads promoting generational divides. They always devolve into flaming entire groups of people.

Let's calm down a little and enjoy what little time we have on the range. :thumbup:
 
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About retirement? I am retired having been born in the 50s. I think the boomers born in the 60s mostly are still working. I think the millennials are retired on active duty.

It's just me pokin' fun at Boomers since most ads for retirement planning, medical care, and vacations seem to be aimed at them . . . and me. o_O

I think it's time for some show and tell from a February 1965 X-er (almost a Boomer - missed it by "that" much ;)).

I had to wait all the way to 2020 to get this one that was made in 1970. Cheap too. Pre-gundemic pricing.

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It's just me pokin' fun at Boomers since most ads for retirement planning, medical care, and vacations seem to be aimed at them . . . and me. o_O

I think it's time for some show and tell from a February 1965 X-er (almost a Boomer - missed it by "that" much ;)).

I had to wait all the way to 2020 to get this one that was made in 1970. Cheap too. Pre-gundemic pricing.

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We could name you a honorary boomer.:)
 
I think the Lost generation (1883-1900) and the Greatest Gen (1901-1927) got in on laying the groundwork for modern shooting. I would have liked being around for that. Wotkyns, Niedner, Whelen, P.O. Ackley, and the like. 220 Swift, 257 Bob, 25-06, 250-3000, 22-250, 22 Hornet, 300 H&H, 375 H&H. Interesting times except for the depression, WW1, and WW2.
 
That assessment is badly skewed to say the least.
1950 is kind of sandbagging it as that was the start of an era of great economic prosperity. In the coming years, the normal American middle class family would be defined by 2 cars, 3-4 kids, and a home that was probabally closer to 2000 sf. Not only that, but all of that would have been provided on one man's salary, with the wife able to spend 100% of her time at home. On top of that, the man likely was supporting that lifestyle by his mid to late 20's. Additionally, there would likely be a pension as part of employment, and the family would likely have owned everything outright except the house.
And actually a family today that has that much space and a car (or lets say 1 car and one old beater to be 1.3 cars) is not below the poverty line. The poverty line is definitely below the level of any kind of home ownership and rarely includes a decent vehicle of any kind.

That middle class has virtually disappeared, and it is rare to find any family where one working parent can sustain that kind of lifestyle for a family of 5-6, much less in their 20's. Pensions are a thing of the past, and large portions of the population cannot afford to get married until their late 20's or thirties. Most households have 2 working parents to make ends meet, and those that do not mostly live far below the poverty line on government assistance. There most certainly was a high water mark of the middle class, and it has receded considerably.
Statistics can inform us, but they can also distort things. Moreover, it is important to distinguish between technological change, like air conditioning, and economic changes. If you remove the impact of "technological inflation" from the mix, people today would be obviously much worse off than their grandparents. Additionally, quality of many items has deteriorated considerably, which is mostly not captured in the CPI etc.

Back to the OP question.
I am not a boomer, so lets start with that.
However, I do consider the boomers lucky in almost every regard, firearms and otherwise. Despite inheriting what was mostly a wealthy and prosperous nation, they managed to squander it and leave it far worse for their children. While they are not solely responsible, or individually all responsible, they more than any other generation must take the blame for what happened.
Besides the issues of affordability, boomers were responsible for much of the control laws that we are now saddled with and unlikely to ever get rid of.

Hmmm.

My parents got married in '62 in their 20s. Me and my brother followed in '65 and '66. Both parents had college degrees, two full time jobs, one part time job, two used cars, and they got their first mortgage in '72 for a 1600 sq. ft. house. Maybe a year or two after that, was their first new car. My dad dropped the part time jobs sometime in the late '70s as his full time job improved. They busted their humps to get there, same as their parents before them.

As opposed to my parents, my brother and I went the working class route. His time in the Army led him that way and my mechanical inclinations learned in my teens led me that way. We both left home at 18 and got married to our wives in our 20s in the 1980s.

Afford to get married? We found wives that were willing to work and we lived in low end apartments living paycheck to paycheck; used cars, used everything, rent to own furniture to build credit. Same as many others. My first mortgage in the '90s was for a 1400 square footer way out of town where homes were affordable, but we hated the long drive to work.

My four kids (currently 23 to 31) are a mixed bag. Two are hard workers, one with a problem holding a job, and the other with a very "intelligent" mouth full of excuses. That last one can out debate the whole family, whether wrong or right. He shoulda become a lawyer, but that would require working hard and lowering his standards that he got from others outside of this household.

Through the eyes of my brother and myself, what we see is that the careers that we started into decades ago appear to be only sought by recent immigrants to the USA, ex-military, or both. Meaning jobs that require working with your hands and getting dirty.

I figure the high standard of living that modern Americans are accustomed to is an unfortunate expectation of many young folks that should be starting out lean and mean in the working world. Young workin' folks sometimes simply need to lower their standards and get going with life.

Speaking of pensions and bennies. One pretty much has to work for a good sized corporation or a tax payer funded entity of some sort to get those things, in my experience. Otherwise, you pay your own way.

Personally, I couldn't afford my first firearm until age 27, which I got for $120. My current small "collection" didn't really get going until age 41. Which means only the last 16 years have really been my Golden Gun Years.
 
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I am a still working Boomer born in 59.
Never inherited, was given or squandered anything dad was enlisted Navy, didn’t make much, so was I. Retired in 96 from that and been working in IT since. Done everything from landscaping to auto mechanics to Nuclear now manage IT teams. Got my degree in night school while working 50 hours a week.

Life is what you make of it.

learned to shoot when I was young, 8 or 10, got a used single shot 12 for Christmas when I was 13 or 14. Stevens break open. Have bought and sold many rifles and pistols when I had to. Wish I still had some of them. Now I pretty much have what I want, though who knows something might tickle me in the future. I have a few old ones but not a “collector” I shoot mine.

Times were different in the 60s and 70s but they are different now too. Good and bad. I ain’t gonna paint with a wide brush and say one gen is responsible for this or that or another is to blame. You get what you work for and earn was how I was raised. That’s what I did.

can still shoot sub MOA on a good day with a good rifle and ammo. So I guess I am lucky and blessed.
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Had to say goodbye to alot of dad's things due to a very vindictive and spiteful sister. There was no will and my dad despised my sister. Hated her liberal guts. When she found out there wasn't a will she dug in like a tick. I lost a 1947 knucklehead and a 1948 luscombe 8F because of her. And now over 300 guns have to go to auction because she is so bitter and won't accept any bid I offer to buy on anything. To say I am p%$$@d is an understatement. My dad was a "boomer". The generation I will forever respect.

Get a proxy bidder for those guns. Once the word "SOLD!" is said she is out of the loop, and you are filling out the 4473, so no straw purchase. (Big auction houses use proxy bidding all the time, yes, even for firearms. Basically a proxy bidder just sets the price for the buyer.)
 
Guns IMHO have never been cheaper. For $600-$700 you can get very high quality service pistols. For under $1,000 you can get a nice AR and for $1,500 you can get a Daniel Defense which is top of the line. Let's not even talk about how much more economical and accurate modern bolt action "hunting" rifles are.

Even a brand new Python or Anaconda is $1,500. I feel like we were paying that much 20 years ago for them.
Agreed 100%
You can get a totally DECENT handgun or shotgun today for under $500- for a lot of folks that is less that one week’s salary - not bad in my opinion.
Regarding ammo prices nowadays:
we complain but keep shootings as a hobby (hobbies are not necesseties) . Can’t tell you how many times I heard from older folks something like: “ grew up on a farm-my father had one box of ammo in a drawer , would fire one test round before hunting season, when going hunting he would take 2-3 bullets with him, and he would bring a deer home- and that’s it”
Going to a range and doing a mag dump like a moron ( myself guilt of it, too) was unheard of many decades ago.
 
I really don't get why we have these threads promoting generational divides. They always devolve into flaming entire groups of people.

Let's calm down a little and enjoy what little time we have on the range. :thumbup:

Although I’m only 34, my mother was born in 48. My grandparents also spent a great deal of time raising me while my mother worked. I grew up learning to admire many aspects of Baby Boomer culture and values. You’d think I’m in my late 70s if you listened to my music library. Needless to say, this post was not intended to be divisive or derogatory.

My Boomer mom lol.
 

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