Do horizontal shoulder holsters violate cooper rule #2?
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<Jack Sparrow>
They're really more like guidelines...
</Jack Sparrow>
They're really more like guidelines...
</Jack Sparrow>
I don't think so. If I'm at the range when we clear all guns to walk down and check targets, I'll sidestep if while walking back I find myself staring down a muzzle. There's danger of a cookoff, or of the gun going off when someone is setting it down or picking it up, or that the firearm could fall off of the surface on which it rests and go off.
What does give a horizontal shoulder holster some saving grace is that the gun is stable (if the holster is quality it's not going to fall) and on most models the trigger is covered. Contrary to popular belief, it is possible to draw without sweeping everyone on the weak side by drawing straight out then down and around to the front.
Marko Kloos
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Any holster would violate Cooper Rule #2 at some point, because even with a belt or IWB rig you go into multi-storied buildings on occasion, and we all know that most floors won't stop a bullet.
Det. Crockett NEVER violated Rule #2.
Ditto what Mr. Kloos and Mr. Burke said.
The rule was always intended to apply to a gun already drawn and in your shooting hand, not to a holstered weapon.
The context in which Col. Cooper discussed this rule made that clear.
Thus, Cooper never considered a cocked & locked pistol carried horizontally in a shoulder holster (e.g., a 10mm Bren Ten) to be a Rule #2 violation.
Critics of shoulder holsters have never understood this.
Ditto what Mr. Kloos and Mr. Burke said.
The rule was always intended to apply to a gun already drawn and in your shooting hand, not to a holstered weapon.
The context in which Col. Cooper discussed this rule made that clear.Thus, Cooper never considered a cocked & locked pistol carried horizontally in a shoulder holster (e.g., a 10mm Bren Ten) to be a Rule #2 violation.
Critics of shoulder holsters have never understood this.
Lebben-B
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Try standing in a line at the chow hall with a 9mm muzzle pointed at your gut, then tell me how you interpret Cooper #2. If I were MNF-I Commander for a day, I would outlaw all "Miami" rigs.
Mike
Try standing in a line at the chow hall with a 9mm muzzle pointed at your gut, then tell me how you interpret Cooper #2. If I were MNF-I Commander for a day, I would outlaw all "Miami" rigs.
Mike
AnthonyRSS
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As I sit here, my IWB commander is pointing at my buttocks. Not much I can do about it, I don't reckon.
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