Do you leave your CCW in your vehicle?

Do you leave your CCW unattended in your vehicle? Check as many as apply.

  • No, never.

    Votes: 10 10.2%

  • Yes, as a general practice

    Votes: 9 9.2%

  • Sometimes, but only with a "good" reason,

    Votes: 17 17.3%

  • Sometimes, and for no good reason.

    Votes: 5 5.1%

  • Yes, but only with special security provisions (lockbox, etc.)

    Votes: 16 16.3%

  • ONLY if I am legally carrying and encounter a no-carry zone.

    Votes: 50 51.0%

  • I think CCW firearms shouldn't be left unattended in vehicles.

    Votes: 10 10.2%

  • It's ok for any reason - as long as they are out of sight in a locked vehicle.

    Votes: 10 10.2%

  • It's ok to leave firearms unattended in vehicles but only in certain circumstances.

    Votes: 5 5.1%

  • It's ok, but only with special security provisions (lockbox, etc.)

    Votes: 10 10.2%
  • Total voters
    98
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Based upon a difference of opinions in another recent thread in this forum, I and another member have jointly decided to post this poll to determine how others feel about what we consider to be a significant issue for those of us who carry concealed firearms regularly or occasionally. This can pertain to law enforcement as well as civilians. Feel welcome to expound upon your choices as well as adding your input to the poll (we know you will anyway, this being a forum of opinionated writers.. :D ).
 
Negative.

Fortunately, the post office I use is only 2 miles from home and in a small, sleepy little town so I don't feel horrifically endangered when I have to enter the U.S. government's gun-free, criminal empowerment zone. I just can't get all warm and fuzzy about leaving a gun in my car. I'm a car hobbyist -- I know how quickly and easily someone can break into a car.
 
Well, concealed is concealed. Also, according to older, more experienced and versed in the law people, there seems to be a loophole in the post office rule, which allows carry for "other lawful purposes". At any rate, I live in a town where it's unlikely to be an issue, and I seldom use the post office.
 
If I was out and about and had to make a stop somewhere a gun was prohibited such as a post office I would park as close to the doors as possible.
 
My wife and I run a small business and I'm dropping off packages at the post office most everyday. Due to Georgia law, I can't carry inside, so I leave my unloaded commander locked in the car and take the magazine with me. The main thing I don't like about this (other than having to leave it there in the first place) is the loading and unloading in the car.
 
Ok, voted...

(In case anyone's wondering, I'm the other half of the difference of opinion.) :D
 
Yup, only if I encounter a place where jail is a threat (post office/court house)..."concealed means concealed" as for as events that might be posted. We have no law about posting here. Need to get a secure way to store in the car though.
 
I voted "ONLY if I am legally carrying and encounter a no-carry zone." To clarify, this means places where criminal legal action would be taken against me if I was caught carrying. Does NOT include places that are posted without authority of the law to back them up.
 
Interesting enough, my car was just broken into this very evening. I lost a nice knife and thirteen dollars worth of granola.

They spent some time going through the glove box and under the seats.
 
Now that they changed the law in Texas, and defined legally travelling, one can carry in the car all the time. They can carry it out of the car only if they have a CHL. The result of the change in the law will no doubt result in more guns being left in cars as a general practice.
 
Now that they changed the law in Texas, and defined legally travelling, one can carry in the car all the time.
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The law does not define travelling nor does it allow one to carry in the car all the time.

The new law simply places the burden of proof on the STATE rather than the citizen. In other words, the presumption is that the citizen is travelling (innocent) rather than the old law where the citizen was immediately subject to arrest and would have to prove in court that he was travelling.

The PRACTICAL effect is that most people will be able to carry a handgun in their vehicle without fear of prosecution, but the law still says that it is illegal to carry unless you are travelling. As pointed out in the last quote below, it is still possible to be prosecuted for illegally carrying a handgun in the vehicle, it's just much harder now.

Here is an analysis of the law written by a TX legislator.

http://www.tsra.com/HB823_Keel.htm
In enacting HB 823, the 79th legislature, like all previous legislatures, declined to define traveling
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HB 823 does not give “everyone the right to carry a gun in a car”.
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The presumption applies unless the prosecution proves beyond a reasonable doubt that the facts giving rise to the presumption do not exist. If the state fails to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the facts giving rise to the presumption do not exist, the jury must find that the presumed fact exists.
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I find it strange that some folks will spend $$$ on a gun, but won't shell out considerably less for an in-vehicle lockbox, and instead they just throw it in the glovebox or under the seat (relying on the goodwill of casual thieves).

If I was going to leave my CCW in my car, it would only be in one of these (preferably bolted in place).

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Just a thought...

How many police vehicles have shotguns/rifles/anti-sniper rifles locked in the trunk when the officer is called away from the immediate area of the vehicle? (I'm thinking foot chases, traffic accidents, etc.) Most of them are not locked in a rack, as weapons in the passenger compartment usually are.
 
Thanks for the info, JohnKSa. The idea I was trying to get accross, is the effect in relation to the question posed in the thread.
 
The idea I was trying to get accross, is the effect in relation to the question posed in the thread.
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I agree 100%.

What scares me about the strong opinion of gun owners regarding leaving a gun in the vehicle is that if someone were to propose a law to make it illegal, it sounds like there would be support not only from the antis but also from the gun owners.

I leave a gun in the car a good bit of the time for various reasons. I don't think it's really a great idea to do it, but there are times when not being able to do so would be very problematic. I would certainly hate for it to become illegal...
 
that video pissed me off

watching that video of that guy just rampaging through a parking lot pissed me off

it would have served him right if one of those gloveboxes were boobietrapped somehow

a claymore to the face would sure have ruined his day and quite honestly I would have no remorse for him if such would have ever happened, in fact it would be nice to have a device of some sorts to arm in a glovebox when you set your car alarm :)

This is something I have been thinking about as I want to go get my TX CHL and what to do when you have to leave it behind when visiting anywhere that has that lovely texas 30.06 signage. In TX, if its posted and is the exact wordage and the 1 inch requirement, its legal. You dont want to go in packing and get caught. Bad idea.

http://www.txdps.state.tx.us/administration/crime_records/chl/signposting.htm
 
I have no option on whether or not to leave my CCW in the car. I am forbidden from carrying my CCW while at work. I refuse to travel to and from work unarmed, so there is nothing to do but leave the gun in the car.

Fortunately, the post office I use is...
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Unless prohibited by state law, it is not illegal to carry your CCW into a post office.
 
About the only times are gov. facilities or restaraunts that serve liquor.
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I Florida, it is not an issue to carry into a restaurant that serves alcohol. Just avoid the bar area.

Greg


Oh, and I just watched the video. I hate POS ******s like that. Hope someone caps his homey @ss one day.
 
I would much rather just discreetly carry concealed in a 'off limits' place (post office, alcohol serving restaurant, church, public building with no metal detectors, taking my kid to school) than to leave a loaded gun in my car, where it's far more susceptible to being stolen or mishandled than when in my holster on my hip.

I get mad everytime I think about the idea of places being 'off limits' for me to exercise fundamental rights. Can you imagine a 'no worship' zone (besides a government run school, I mean)? How about a 'no reading' sign in a park? Or maybe a 'illegal to speak about local government here' signs in the courthouse?
 
I only leave my carry gun in the car if I cant legally carry it.

However its not uncommon for my G17 to be left in it.
 
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