Do you need compact handgun for concealed?

[newbie4help]

I'm thinking of getting a TX concealed permit this summer. Is it a good idea to get a "compact" gun, or can you go with a full-sized gun like the Glock 17 as well? I ask because I enjoy target shooting a lot as well, and I don't think a compact would be as fun/feel as good.

 

[rantingredneck]

I carry a Ruger P345 most every day. Occasionally I downsize to the NAA Guardian .380.

I have carried a Ruger P89 and P90 before too.

You can pretty much adjust your attire to just about any handgun within reason.

 

[Kind of Blued]

Short answer: No.

Long answer: Well, its long, and I gotta go. Depends on clothing, holster, belt, and such.

 

[newbie4help]

Thanks ranting redneck - I'm going to assume those are full sized I'm not very knowledgeable about handguns yet. Just recently I started enjoying shooting sports but I've never owned a gun. I'll probably wait a good long while til I get my permit honestly - I want to become confident and know safety of my particular gun inside and out.

 

[scurtis_34471]

In general, thinner guns with shorter grips are easier to conceal and lighter guns are more pleasant to carry. The trade off is that larger, heavier guns are easier and more pleasant to shoot well. Its a balancing act.

I think mid-sized guns are a good compromise (i.e. XD Subcompact, M&P Compact) because they are reasonably concealable/comfortable while still being good shooters.

 

[Hunter0924]

I carry a Colt 1991A1 everyday.
With a good holster and belt you should have no problem.

 

[VHinch]

I carry a Sig 220. As others have pointed out, the key is a good holster and belt.

 

[newbie4help]

Thank you all for input. Could you please tell me what made you start carrying? I am a young professional, no military experience, but will be working in a somewhat dangerous big city and I'd hate to lose everything because of some unforeseen danger. I also want to protect my future family.

Is that a good enough reason to get a concealed permit?

 

[jgo296]

is it a good enough reason to get training?

 

[newbie4help]

I meant is it good enough to get concealed permit. Do most people who get concealed permits have some extreme circumstance or are most just normal average citizens.

 

[hankdatank1362]

Almost every last one of them are regular, working joes (and Joannes)


And no, you don't need compact this or subcompact that. I routinely CCW a full-size 1911, or a sig P226 .40 S&W.

 

[Albatross]

The most important thing you can do to make carrying any gun vastly more comfortable is to buy a quality belt. Seek out a belt specifically made for wearing what is also important: a quality holster. Uncle Mike's nylon doesn't make that cut.

I recommend http://www.thebeltman.net/ for belts that work great and look good/fit in.

I've had mine for a number of years and it is tip top. I used to think carrying a little colt mustang .380 was uncomfortable and assumed everyone talking about carrying a 1911 every day was full of it or very uncomfortable.

/currently carries a 1911 daily.

 

[The Lone Haranguer]

I am quite partial to the slightly downsized compact versions of full-sized pistols, e.g., the Glock 19 vs. 17, CZ75 PCR vs. the standard CZ75, SIG P228 vs. P226. They shoot as well yet are more compact and lighter; the weight difference between the steel- and alloy-frame CZs in particular is quite pronounced.

 

[The_Shootist]

Grin

This thread could easily rival "9mm vs .45ACP" if it gets going.

But no - I've never felt the size of the gun (within reason - concealing an AK might be problematic unless its a Krink or something) limited its CCW ease.

Heck , when I first got my Tx CHL, my first carry piece was a full size Colt 1911 - and sometimes still is. Even in shorts and a t-shirt I've carried my 4" bbl 686+ and routinely carry my G19 (which isn't a fair comparision as that Glock is one of th easiest to carry around).

Yeah, sometimes clothing or social situations dictate pocket carrying a P-32 or a snubby. But in most casual situations, I think the only thing that drives the size of the gun is how comfortable it is and the confidence you have with it.

Remember the REASON you carry - to save your skin and at least get out of harms way. A concealable pistol that is comfortable but unreliable / inaccurate could get you killed (unless you buy into the theory that most times bad guys will run if you display a gun - some might not!).

Carrying a nice stout 1911 or 686 in a thin Kramer IWB with an untucked shirt can add quite a bit to your piece of mind

 

[Treo]

Welcome to the world of CCW. To cut past all the jargon you just heard, Yes is is quite possible to conceal a full sized pistol on your person. One of the most interesting things I learned when I started to carry is that most people DON'T notice at all.

As to why I carry I carry for self defense. If you want the specific indident that caused me to get a permit, some whacko chase my wife down one of the mainstreets in Co Springs over a bumper sticker on her car. The incident scared my wife bad enough that she decided to get her permit ( she had ZERO gun experience prior) I decided that if she was going to carry I would too.

That said you don't need to articulate a reason to carry to get a permit.

 

[chris in va]

Many people on here will carry a small handgun on a daily basis, but get a larger gun for range use/plinking.

Now revolvers are pretty flexible, you can shoot lower recoil 38 out of my SP101, but carry 125gr 357's in it.

Just shop around, many mid-sized handguns shoot fine at the range and carry nicely.

are most just normal average citizens

Yup. Usually though, something happens in our lives that wakes us up to what really goes on around us. For me it was seeing a dead body lying on a sidewalk in broad daylight, or the local MS-13 machete hackings.

 

[lvcat2004]

If you are a young professional (like me), it might be very difficult to practically conceal a full-sized firearm with dress clothes.

I started out with SUB-compact XD-9, and even then, it's too big, uncomfortable, so I am downsizing to much smaller 380 ACP Kel-Tec that fits comfortably in front pocket.

Is it a bit anemic in terms of firepower? yes, but the first rule of gunfight.....have a gun. I was leaving my 9mm at home, which was no good. 380 is better than my fist.

 

[loop]

lvact,

You got the first rule of a gunfight right.

Exactly why there is always a .32 on my person somewhere.

Normally there is a .45 auto somewhere too, but that isn't always possible. Had lunch with the governor on Friday. Thought with all the security she has there was a really good possibility my .45 would be spotted and I could be in trouble as a potential assassin.

Settled for just my lowly .32 and wasn't made.

You do what you have to do, but give yourself a chance in case you run into a nut job.

Anybody got a tip on concealing a Krink with a 40-round mag?

 

[ZeSpectre]

Do you -need- a compact gun? No, but you'd be astounded at how much easier a size reduction of 1 inch can make it to carry concealed.

Could you please tell me what made you start carrying? I am a young professional, no military experience, but will be working in a somewhat dangerous big city and I'd hate to lose everything because of some unforeseen danger. I also want to protect my future family.

I used to work LE. Not only did I see the usual ugly stuff that anyone with open eyes will notice, I had the "benefit" of getting called to countless "events" and seeing how fast things could get ugly and what it takes to protect yourself in those situations.

Strangely enough (and I really can't explain it) after I left LE I went gunless for a few years in spite of everything I'd seen. Then one day I woke up again to the need to care for myself and my loved ones in -all- aspects of my life.
(related side note... Have you checked your life/health/other insurance policies lately? Have you written/updated your wills? How about a Dr. visit for an annual checkup? It's all part of protecting yourself and those you love so GO GET IT DONE!)

Tryin' to look out for y'all!
Ze

 

[possum]

you don't "need" a compact handgun, but they are easier to conceal and they make life a little easier when carrying. they things that i look for are pistol grip lenght first and then for width. i carry compact guns, but of all the guns that i have i only have one that has over 4 1/4" barrel.

 

[45 nut]

i like little snubbies for CCW,got a pretty good selection to chose from, including a bobbed 45, but im lazy, and its just easier to throw a snubbie in your back pocket and go about your business

 

[moooose102]

i carry a full sized taurus 24/7 daily. it's usually not a problem carrying it in cool weather and up to about 80 degrees. but beyond that, it is HARD to disguise a big pistol in a t shirt and shorts! for warm weather, you are going to NEED something small enough to fit in your pants pocket. i am no fan of small caliber guns though. i am looking at buying a 9mm kel-tec. for me, thats as small as i want to go. also remember, that if you are unfortunate enough that you HAVE to shoot someone, the cops are going to take the pistol from you as evidence. if your shooting is "justifyable" you will probably get it back, but it may take a while. so don't buy a $1500.00 gun to carry if you don't want to be with out it for a while. i think thats why there is such a large followig in inexpensive smaller guns. easy to carry, cheap enough to buy two, just in case, and you are going to probably be less that 15 ' away from whoever you shoot, so the gun doesn't have to be a tack driver at 50'. just some things to think about before you make a purchase. good luck with you ccw permit!

 

[sdj]

A perennial favorite topic, this one: full sized, or smaller?

I have found that no matter what size I carry, the belt and holster are very important - arguably more difficult to choose and get right (for you, that is) than the gun itself. Lots of folks on this site carry a full sized .45 semi auto 24-by-7. Most of those that do, however are not sliding it into the waistband of their running shorts. ;-) Albatross is spot-on in stressing belt and holster.

Be prepared to buy (and then shelve!) a few holsters.

Good luck!

 

[Well-Armed Lamb]

I think it really depends on your body type. I'm a skinny guy, so I pretty much have to go with a compact frame. Big guys can carry bigger stuff and still have it blend.

 

[searcher451]

+1 to Well-armed Lamb. If I had my druthers, I'd carry a Walther P5 or, better yet, a P88C, every day. But try as I might, and I have tried, both are just too large for me to comfortably and effectively conceal. The PPK is a good compromise, given my body size. I'm comfortable with the gun, and the .380 caliber is adequate.