Do you open carry?

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I would if it were allowed here in Southern Illinois. And I would hope that more people would.

My view is that if a goblin is going to rob someplace is he more likely to go where he sees a couple of guys in there openly carrying, or is he more likely to hit somewhere where he assumes there are no guns. Deterring crime before it happens is preferable to having to draw and use your weapon. Same reason security cameras with flashing red lights are effective at deterring crime, while hidden cameras are better for catching someone after they have done the deed.
 
I think that it is important that if your are going to open carry in close quarters with out humans, that you train for open carry, and you be extra mindful of where your gun is on your person at all times, and be aware of who else has access to it in that position. You cannot afford to forget you are armed.

How many of you have ever seen an armed, uniformed police officer, and thought of how easily you could take his weapon in his current situation? I can remember standing behind a deputy at the county fair, at less than an arm's length, with a tidal wave of people bumping their way through the crowd. His right arm was cradled, probably something in his right hand, the gun was wide open and about 24" from my hand, and he was facing the other direction.

I scolded our town's chief of police after a city council meeting, as he always sat in front of me (folding metal chairs), with his gun hanging beside and behind him at a 4:00 position. I told him I could have taken his gun without him knowing, and even if we both went for his gun, that I was in a far better position to win a struggle for it.

I have nothing against open carry, but its adds an extra layer of training, caution, and risk that I think is often not considered, even by trained LEO professionals.

Just wondering if others ever saw somebody with weapon, and thought about how easily they might take it if they were of a sinister mind.
 
I do both (OC and CC) as I wish and as my needs require. If anyone wishes to project their feelings upon the exercise of my legal right to do so, that's their problem, not mine.
 
In the woods, sometimes. On the street, nope.

I think open-carry wins no one over to the 2A cause, and THAT is a worry.
It would if more people did it. As many have stated, the opinion you state is certainly true in many locations, but not all. In small-town Arizona, the entire State of Alaska, OC is common to the point of being a non-issue. In my neck of the woods, it is a billboard that identifies a person making a political point.

I am in the conflicted place of supporting those political aims, but not to the point of being self conscious every time I walk out my front door OC'ing. I still conceal 99% of the time, and when I don't, it is only when a covering blazer is keeping me from doing something like vacuuming the car, checking the tires, etc..

It's an interesting problem.
 
In the woods, I carry openly. In Virginia, years ago, the Concealed Carry law prohibited CONCEALED carry in an establishment that served alcohol -- which is to say any restaurant.

But the older, open carry law did not mention alcohol. So it became the practice of people going into restaurants to take off their jackets, or otherwise expose their guns.

And nothing bad happened.
 
If I were on the farm or in the woods, I would. (I just don't spend enough time there to say that I "do" OC there.) In the city, nope.
 
I agree, and welcome to THR by the way Kittie. Always glad to see more women taking part here. We as a community often lack a female's perspective.

On a separate note, concealed carry and firearms are so prolific where I live, I more or less assume the majority, or at least the majority of the minority, of law abiding citizens are carrying concealed. I can't remember what the per capita rate was where I live, but considering my state, and particularly my region of my state has very few people in it, the number of CC permits issued was astounding. My town is about 2200 people, and my county is low population as well. But last year I heard there were something like 18000 permits issued or renewed. So there's a lot more folks out there who already have permits. We are almost open carrying by default here.

I'm a fan of looking for people who are overdressed in summer, and trying to figure out what kind of gun they are concealing. I've found myself thinking quite often "Oh yeah, he looks like a 1911 kind of guy."
Thank you for the welcome 460Kodiak. =)
 
For women with the clothes we usually wear 95% of the time the best option is purse carry. If you don't have a proper holster for this, it can be a bad idea and lead to an AD. Not to mention having a lip gloss stuck in your barrel.

Even thin sub compacts like the shield or the glock 42/43 are difficult to conceal when you are wearing curve hugging outfits. Body carry is always the best option and best way to go when ever possible. Yes if I am going to the mall, movies, fine dining, etc I conceal carry. But being in AZ when it is 115 degrees out and I am melting between the AC in my car and where I am going just crossing a parking lot, I am not wearing a concealment garb of any kind. Not to mention you say you are concealed carrying doing so as you are the only one with a heavy vest or jacket in the heat with that cute little bulge of your firearm printing anyway you are not fooling anyone.

And as for all those that speak of military training and such being what guides their carry. I know the first thing I was taught was weapons retention. Being aware of where my weapon was at and keeping it on the opposite side of my body from anyone that I did not like the way they looked, felt or just did not trust. I learned the "interview stance" of keeping your hands near your waist in an un-threatening manner, keeping your body positioned in a manner that prevented easy access to your firearm. This allowed for a faster reaction time as well as it kept your forearm over your firearm so you could easily lower it and lock your weapon in the holster. I know we were trained for how to do both safely and properly.

And also just to chime in with it. I am not even in small town AZ. I am in one of the bigger main cities. Granted we are one of the most gun friendly states in the country. But both concealed and open carry here is very common place. We are a constitutional carry state that allows either way as your right. No permit needed either way.
 
This is a perineal subject, and it may not be amiss to point out that there is a big difference between saying, "I wouldn't open carry" and saying, "Other people shouldn't be allowed to open carry."
 
I'm OC'ing right now. I OC every day. My neighbors are accustomed to seeing me OC. Places I shop at are accustomed to seeing me OC.

I do try to dress very neatly. I don't try to draw attention to my firearm. I wear black holsters, with black jeans and a black belt, mostly.

I think people who do notice assume, wrongly, that I am a LEO.

I agree with the idea that a retention holster is important, along with situational awareness.

I keep a large padlock on the frame of the seat of my truck. If I decide to have even one beer, I will secure my firearm before doing so.
 
I open carry at work daily.

I used a level 2 retention holster. I have my holster positioned on my belt in such a way that my arm naturally covers the gun. I pay strict attention to who is around me and I stay out of crowds if at all possible.

At home I conceal just because it happens to be my preference.
 
This is a perineal subject, and it may not be amiss to point out that there is a big difference between saying, "I wouldn't open carry" and saying, "Other people shouldn't be allowed to open carry."

I agree wholeheartedly with Vern on this except for the use of the word perineal. But I'm thinkin' it was spellcheck.

I OC regularly. I also CWC regularly. There is as Kittie stated earlier in this thread, a time and a place for each. Not everyone that open carries is looking for attention, nor are they giving up a tactical advantage, if and when they OC responsibly and in proper surroundings. Everytime this topic comes up I see folks jumping on the "soccer mom screamin' "Man with a gun!" bandwagon. Yet I see more folks irresponsibly CWC and being outed, than I see folks irresponsibly OCing. I often wonder why those soccer mom's never scream at that? I've been on these types of gun forums for years and have yet to read a thread where the OP says they had a soccer mom(or anyone else for that matter) scream "Man with a Gun!". On the other hand, I read threads all the time about little old ladies outing CWCers at the supermarket or those "my gun fell outta my pants in the restroom" threads. So much for the old "tactical advantage" argument. :scrutiny:

There are tons of places I would never consider openly carrying, just as there tons of places I would...at least around here, in my area and within the atmosphere of gun ownership that prevails here. What works for me here may not work for everyone else, just like everything else in life.
 
Do you open carry?

Sometimes, yes. I have, once in awhile, for about a decades during which I have open carried in at least 8 different states. I have also openly carried several-to-dozens of times at various specific locations that internet experts say you "can't" or "aren't allowed", never a problem. Always a handgun in a belt holster with at least one level of active retention, for me. (well, I have open carried a slung AR across a small town square several times while going to an indoor range you cannot park right at)

Both have their own set of advantages and disadvantages, neither is always better than the other.

The choice (ought to be) is yours.

Shaq is simply expressing the facets of his own personality which would be in control were he to open carry. He has no special information or insight as to why anyone else does anything they do.

Remember, when someone says, "this is why people do whatever," they're actually saying, "here's a window into my soul. Understand ME, and known my faults and my limitations."

aka projection

Anyone who intends to conceal a firearm knows better than relying on a T - shirt to conceal it. Except for a very small gun, it can't be done, especially if it's too snug fitting.

I conceal under a T-shirt all the time. Almost literally all the time. Many, many other people do as well.

Why scare the "sheeple" and advertise to the bad guys???
Makes no sense to me at all. As posted above, I want to be the only one who knows I'm armed. Foolish to give up tactical surprise and your selection of time and place to intervene.
I see it as nothing more than a political act. But hey, that's my opinion....you can agree or disagree.

I don't have any reason to believe I scare anybody. If the mere sight of a gun scares them, well, they must hate having police officers on the tax payroll lol. Also, as it happens, more people open carrying more often while going about their day minding their own business only helps to alleviate apprehension those who have little or no experience with it might feel. Call it education.

You can see it as whatever act you want, that does not in any way mean the person(s) doing it are doing so for that reason.

As for the bad guys, deterrence is still a thing. It is up to you to weigh the odds and advantages of surprising an attacker with a gun vs having the attacker pick somebody else, or whatever other hypothetical scenario you personally believe is most likely should you make the decision one way or the other

I think that it is important that if your are going to open carry in close quarters with out humans, that you train for open carry, and you be extra mindful of where your gun is on your person at all times, and be aware of who else has access to it in that position. You cannot afford to forget you are armed.

How many of you have ever seen an armed, uniformed police officer, and thought of how easily you could take his weapon in his current situation? I can remember standing behind a deputy at the county fair, at less than an arm's length, with a tidal wave of people bumping their way through the crowd. His right arm was cradled, probably something in his right hand, the gun was wide open and about 24" from my hand, and he was facing the other direction.

I scolded our town's chief of police after a city council meeting, as he always sat in front of me (folding metal chairs), with his gun hanging beside and behind him at a 4:00 position. I told him I could have taken his gun without him knowing, and even if we both went for his gun, that I was in a far better position to win a struggle for it.

I have nothing against open carry, but its adds an extra layer of training, caution, and risk that I think is often not considered, even by trained LEO professionals.

Just wondering if others ever saw somebody with weapon, and thought about how easily they might take it if they were of a sinister mind.

Do some force on force training with a trained LEO or LE type (whatever that means) in a position like that and see just how easy, or hard, it is.

And understand that doing it for real, of course, means you are literally betting your life on being correct. If all you are doing is seeing the gun, in a LE duty style active retention holster at that, and assuming it would be oh so easy to snatch the gun, you may find that you are mistaken. If you are well practiced in doing so, maybe you can pull it out, somebody who is GOOD and knows that particular holster can do it quickly.

But no, I haven't looked at a cop's gun and assumed I could easily take it from their holster.
 
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It's legal in both the state I work and live in, but I chose not to do so, as I don't want to paint myself as a target, give away the tactical advantage of surprise, nor deal with freaked out ninnies.
 
I open carried on duty (obviously). In my personal life it's always concealed unless hunting or on my private property.

If you want to open carry, go for it. It doesn't bother me one way or another, I just prefer cc.
 
I'm another one that carries concealed when in a public environment. I have no desire to call attention to myself, or alert someone with criminal intentions that I'm armed.

Open carry is restricted to remote places where encountering others is largely unlikely.
 
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