Do you remember your first sub moa group?

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I just had my first with a rifle I own. I've done others, but this is the first with my own rifle.

.531" outside to outsdie .311 center to center
22lr
Mossberg 44 us(a)
3 shots (had a 4th, and I called it high and left... which is where it was, only had 4 left or it would have been a 5 shot group)
50y
Peep sights (rear is a redfield olympic, front is a lyman 93 globe)
using a rest for my hand
 
Yes, I remember!
So memorable in fact, I still have the targets in an old three-ring binder!

My first was was done in 1962 with a 30-06 Springfield sporter I had built myself.
It would consistently shoot just under 1 MOA 5-shot groups at 100 yards with my first handloaded 110 grain Sierra coyote ammo.

Also memorable was my first 10-shot 100 yard group that was one little ragged .22 cal hole.

It was shot with a Remington 722 in .222 Rem, also custom stocked by myself in 1963.

rc
 
rc, i plan on going back and getting that 5 shot.... the three was easy so to speak. it was my first attempt for a tight group. the rest were for getting the center of the gruop moved towards the bull. the last group was for final adjustment.
 
No, because I didn't know what MOA was yet. It was probably a 3 shot group out of my Bushmaster Varminter.
 
Yep, it was about 50 years ago with a Daisy BB-Gun. Got ten shots in a row into the Blue Ribbon trademark on a PBR can we found at the dump. Back then they were steel tho.........
 
Yes... I was ten years old shooting dimes in the middle (half the diameter) at 25+ yards. I often hit several sequentially darned near dead-center (approximately 1/4" spread). But these weren't groups because I had to replace the dime each time. This is how my grandfather taught me marksmanship... he let me keep the coins. :) This was with a cheap/weak pump pellet gun and drop/wind issues were horrible.

But... that was 40+ years ago. I can't hit the broad side of a barn anymore. :(
 
Yes. Ruger 3006 Boat Paddle. I looked at it and said "No way." Well it's been doing it ever since. 165 gr Core Lockt is its favorite feed.
 
Good shooting. It sounds like you have a great rifle, and I really like your sights. I much prefer to use five shots when measuring groups, as you seem to. It seems MUCH tougher to get all five shoots to behave than just three. I love trying to shoot consistantly tiny groups with a .22, but consistancy takes dollars, unless you just get lucky with a great economically priced gun and good lots of ammo. I am jealous of those that end up with those combos.

I have always tried to have one 'super grouper' in my small stable of guns. Over the years I have run through a Winchester 52, three Kimbers, two Sakos, one Dakota, a Remington 541-S, one Cooper, and probably some others I can't remember. All could consistently do the MOA thing with high dollar ammo (Ely, Lapua, etc.). Right now I have one Kimber and one heavy barrel Sako Finnfire. The Finnfire has a heavy stainless Lilja barrel and a 2-ounce Jewell trigger on it and is probably the most accurate .22 I have ever owned. If I shoot a five-shot group over .3 inches (50 yards), I am disappointed. The last time I shot the Finnfire was four five-shot groups I fired on my backyard range about a month ago with Lapua Master. The four measured .18, .28, .17, and .19. Tiny groups are FUN!!! And addictive!!

I also have a couple of centerfires that will do the MOA thing with some regularity, but I get a bigger kick out of it with my quiet .22s.

Do I remember my first MOA group? Nope, it was probably decades ago. But I am sure that first small group stared this whole obsession with accurate .22s.
 
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I guess I got lucky back in 1976 with my first centerfire, A remington 788 rifle in .308. That rifle was about as good as one could be I thought and stil have it and on a good for me will still shoot those little sub1" groups. never picky on ammo ether. Turns out most all them 788's will do that.

Todays fun gun is a kidd barreled, jard triggered 10/22. It will with shoot federal 922a and sk/wolf rifle match will do under .300 but never tried the really good stuff to is if .200 is a posibility. maybe.
 
Oh, yeah. Gun shop owner, whom I knew, said that the Savage (340?*) in .223 with an off-brand scope was a real shooter, and since he knew I had my own range, I could try it out. Three-shot 3/8ths of an inch center-to center. Bought it, put a 12-power Redfield silhouette scope on it. Laid many prairie rats to rest with it since then.

I still remember walking toward the target cussin' and fussin' that I hadn't even hit the cotton-pickin' paper, and selecting several descriptive words I was going to use with the gun shop owner, friend or no friend. Bright sunlight directly behind me hid the fact that the holes were in a neat cloverleaf in the black bull until I got about fifteen yards away and squinted at the target.

I shot up the rest of the 20rd box of ammo moving the sight around to center the strikes.

That rifle still shoots sub-MOA all day long. I've collected a couple of bets that I could hit a dime with it at 100 yards with my handloads. 'Course, the 12X silhouette scope helps.

Terry, 230RN

* I think that's the right model number. It's stored away right now.
 
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I think it was in '57 or '58 with an old Savage or Stevens .22 bolt action my uncle had picked up in one of his many trades. I'm not really absolutely certain it was a sub-MOA group because we were too poor to afford a good ruler. How accurate are hardware store yardsticks? :)
 
Yup. It was last week. A guy at the range let me shoot his CZ 452 after I let him shoot my AR. It was the first scoped rifle I had shot.
 
M.O.A.

1965 with a second hand Remington Model 600 with a 4x weaver in .243. I had bought it for my wife to hunt with. I took it out to sight it in with factory 80 gr. rounds and completely amazed myself. It sold me forever on Remington’s and especially the little .243.

How accurate are hardware store yardsticks?
Well, as I sadly found out first hand through a very nice Game Warden as I was getting a citation for a short Salmon, they are off over 5/8 inch at 24 inches.
 
MOA

Bought a 20's vintage Gustaf made 6.5 Swede Mauser that someone dropped in a Bishop stock and mounted with a cheap 4X scope. I ran through a box of FMJ trying to get it sighted in, to no avail. I opened a box of the same weight JSP, changed the target and shot 3 rounds into one ragged 5/8" hole. I guess it doesn't like ball ammo.
 
1956, military school rifle team, Remington 513T, Williams sights, 50' prone. But everybody had to do it or you're off the team. Smallbore 4 position matches were tough, but fun.
 
10/22

10 yrs ago or so i went to a gun show an saw a beautiful little 22 with a bull barrel i had at this time never seen one like it, it turned out to be a ruger 10/22t and i ended up buying it.man i'm glad i did the groups this gun is capable of is awesome i still have it and it's still one of my favorite guns to shoot oh bye the way it's topped with a simmons 10/22t scope which i highly recommend for this gun
 
I do remember it. It's the only loading data I've got locked in my head, can't remember others, have to record them. 7 Mag, 140gr Nosler Ballistic tips, 62gr IMR 4831, Remington RP case, WLRM primers, COAL 3.29", .492" 5-shot group :D
 
Mine was with my first centerfire rifle, a JC Higgins Model 50 in 30-06. The Model 50 is a commercial FN Mauser action with a chrome lined High Standard barrel that was sold by Sears in the early 50s. Sighted it in with 150 grain Winchester Power Points, which turned out to be the rifle's favorites. Once I got it sighted in and started shooting groups for real, it turned in several sub MOA groups. I wondered what was the big deal with one inch groups. It wasn't until I had owned some other sporters that I realized just how special the Model 50 was.
 
I'm sure it will be memorable...if it EVER happens! With my vision and no rifles with scopes...not very likely. :( Still enjoy range time, I just bring home bigger groups.

Mark
 
Coyote3855 said:
I will probably remember it if I ever shoot one.

Hah! Same here!

MOA? Hell, I'm lucky to hit the target 2 times out of 5 when shooting offhand with my Mosins at 100 yards. Nevermind getting those shots anywheres close.

Bench shooting is fun and all, but I prefer offhand or kneeling, as I doubt if I actually need to USE one of my firearms, there will be a handy dandy bench and table lying around!

Fun story: First time I tried legit target shooting with my '03 Springfield, I set the peep sight for 100 yards, but was looking through the V notch sight above it, which was on the 500 yard setting. Found out right quick why I didn't hit squat after cycling 10 rounds at two targets! :lol:
 
Mine was shot with a 1903 Springfield using the ladder sight. The load was a 168 grain HPBT over a charge of 4064.

Pete
 
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