Does anyone have a Sig Tango MSR 1-8x?

[TonyAngel]

I'm considering a Tango MSR 1-8x to put on top of my Ruger American. I've looked, but there really isn't much out there in the way of info or reviews.

What do you think of it? I was gonna go with a Burris RT6, but I'm already running a 1-4x and I don't think the RT6 is gonna be much of an upgrade.

 

[kimberkid]

I’ve got the Tango MSR 1-10x28. I like it a lot and for the price the glass is surprisingly clear, the adjustment dial is smooth and the 34mm mount is sturdy and I particularly like that it has the torque settings are right on the mount … the only downside is it’s heavy so be sure to eat your Wheaties!
For that price range I typically buy a Leupold 4-12x40 with a the matching Leupold mount … it’s probably half the weight but not a LPVO like the SiG

 

[Laphroaig]

One of my kids bought the Tango MSR 1-6x to mount on an AR. It came installed on a cantilever mount, and for the price it would be hard to beat that combination considering the quality. The reticle is a little different, but I suppose that you could get used to it.

Which brings me to my question. I always considered the one-piece cantilever type mounts to be an AR thing. Will it work on a bolt gun, i.e. will the scope be positioned too far forward to get proper eye relief? Or will you mount it on more traditional rings?

 

[Walkalong]

One of my kids bought the Tango MSR 1-6x to mount on an AR. It came installed on a cantilever mount, and for the price it would be hard to beat that combination considering the quality.

This one? Looks tempting.

Sig Sauer Tango MSR 1-6x24mm Illuminated MSR-BDC6 SFP Black Riflescope w/Alpha-MSR Cantilevered Black Mount SOT61000

Sig Sauer Tango MSR 1-6x24mm Illuminated MSR-BDC6 SFP Black Riflescope w/Alpha-MSR Cantilevered Black Mount SOT61000 For Sale at EuroOptic.com. This Sig Sauer Rifle scope is a perfect addition to an AR-type platform. SHIPS FREE!

www.eurooptic.com

 

[TonyAngel]

I was looking at the 1-8x because the 1-6x isn't going to be much of an upgrade from a 4X.

I decided to get away from the idea of an LPVO and moved the 2-10x onto the ranch and ordered a 4-16x for the .308.

One of my kids bought the Tango MSR 1-6x to mount on an AR. It came installed on a cantilever mount, and for the price it would be hard to beat that combination considering the quality. The reticle is a little different, but I suppose that you could get used to it.

Which brings me to my question. I always considered the one-piece cantilever type mounts to be an AR thing. Will it work on a bolt gun, i.e. will the scope be positioned too far forward to get proper eye relief? Or will you mount it on more traditional rings?

I've found those mounts to be way too high for a bolt gun. The mount itself put the centerline of the scope 1.5" or so above the rail, which is usually 1 to 1.5" above the axis of the bore.

 

[Walkalong]

Yep, very high for a bolt gun vs a flat stuck AR

 

[Laphroaig]

This one? Looks tempting.

Sig Sauer Tango MSR 1-6x24mm Illuminated MSR-BDC6 SFP Black Riflescope w/Alpha-MSR Cantilevered Black Mount SOT61000

Sig Sauer Tango MSR 1-6x24mm Illuminated MSR-BDC6 SFP Black Riflescope w/Alpha-MSR Cantilevered Black Mount SOT61000 For Sale at EuroOptic.com. This Sig Sauer Rifle scope is a perfect addition to an AR-type platform. SHIPS FREE!

www.eurooptic.com

Exactly. He got his from Optic Planet. It came in at about $300 IIR.

 

[gotboostvr]

Which brings me to my question. I always considered the one-piece cantilever type mounts to be an AR thing. Will it work on a bolt gun, i.e. will the scope be positioned too far forward to get proper eye relief? Or will you mount it on more traditional rings?

Depends on the bolt action.

On a rifle with a traditional stock, no it'll be too high to get a good cheek weld and stay in the eye box.

On a stock with an adjustable comb/cheek riser, it might look a little funky, but you should be able to make it work satisfactorily.

On my Sig Cross, it's ideal

 

[Laphroaig]

epends on the bolt action.

On a rifle with a traditional stock, no it'll be too high to get a good cheek weld and stay in the eye box.

On a stock with an adjustable comb/cheek riser, it might look a little funky, but you should be able to make it work satisfactorily.

On my Sig Cross, it's ideal

That's just an AR with a stick shift!

 

[gotboostvr]

That's just an AR with a stick shift!

Pretty much, all the ergonomic benefits of an AR, without the weight.

with everything set up like that, it's sitting at about #10½. But alot of that is the glass and the can.

 

[CraigC]

I just got the 1-6x. It's a nice scope with good glass but like all +30mm tubes, it's heavy.

 

[TonyAngel]

Man, I hate it when you wind up going back and forth on how to set up a rifle. I put the 2-10x on the 7.62x39 Ranch and it was just too much for what I'm going to be using that rifle for.

So, yesterday, I just happened to find myself at Cabelas. They had a Sig MSR 1-8x. I looked through it. It looked OK for the $399 price tag. It is a chunky thing. What struck me the most was the generous eye relief. The eye box was as tight as you'd expect it to be, but I'd think that you can get pretty comfortable mounting it. The reticle is more of a tacticool flavor, but still fine enough for hunting.

I was about to grab it, when the thought of comparing it to a Vortex PST 1-6x popped into my head. Man, I had forgotten how nice those Gen 2 PSTs are. Nice BIG and flat image on the ocular. Simple, fine reticle, very good illumination. There's a reason it's been so popular for so long.

I was thinking out loud and commented on the $200 price difference and the guy tells me that the PST is on sale for $509. Pfft. I walked out with the PST. For a $100 difference, there just wasn't anything to think about.

 

[kimberkid]

I walked out with the PST. For a $100 difference, there just wasn't anything to think about.

Did the PST include a mount?

 

[TonyAngel]

Did the PST include a mount?

It did not include a mount.

 

[kwb377]

It did not include a mount.

So...a "$100 + $100 to $175 difference" then?

 

[TonyAngel]

So...a "$100 + $100 to $175 difference" then?

Well, I suppose you could put it that way. I don't base a decision like that on what comes with the scope. Mounts come and go. I wanted the better scope and regardless of whether it came with a mount, I think the PST was the better scope.

I had all three, the RT6, the MSR and the PST on the counter at the same time and for me it was a no brainer.

 

[Laphroaig]

Seeing as you are putting it on a Ruger American the mount wouldn't have been very useful anyway. I guess that you could stash it for a future AR mount.

The Sig scope/mount combo is a super deal when you compare it to other options.