does anyone here keep a bulletproof vest close to their home defense weapon?

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i have a IIa on the wife's side and a IIIa on mine. both purchased from LEO surplus sales.

if it was a loud bump in the night i might think about it but generally mine only gets pulled out to get dusted off every so often. i have used it in numerous pistol classes when people behind me have hot weapons, but other than that its a comforting feeling that its there.

and yes..technically they "expire" after 5 years, but as long as its been kept dry and flat chances are it'll stop most pistol rounds for many years to come.
 
if i could wear the body armor they gave me in BCT down in Benning this summer, then HELL yeah id wear it, sure takes a little time to get into but how many home invaders do you think will be carrying 7.62 nato chambered rifles with AP ammunition?
If i had it, and i could hear a clear intrusion such as an unknown person yelling "hey charlie, get the silverware in the car will ya" from my kitchen at two am, id be in armor.
Otherwise its a hard call to make.
 
The body armor question seems to crop up every so often, and the OP is usually derided as paranoid and foolish for even think of it. The funny thing is the same folks deriding the OP are often the ones obsessing over caliber/type of ammo/type of weapon/what to do in x situation.

The point of CCW and home defense is to be as prepared as possible. It's foolish to agonize over relatively insignificant things and yet completely discount the idea of a defensive option. Obviously you should be comfortable with using the armor and how to put it on quickly just as you should be familiar with your home defense weapon. Issues like comfort and weight are non-issues; you aren't going to be wearing it for long enough to matter. It doesn't have to be a level IV with trauma plates, just something that will stop handgun rounds will be better than nothing. Cost is the real factor here, if you can afford it, and you want to have it as an option, go for it.
 
My vest is always close but Its more than a little heavy to just throw on. Like someone said before, I'd rather just grab my gun and surprise the BG in my house rather than giving him enough time to get to my daughter. She is my main priority in the event of a break in.
 
If you are going to keep body armor handy, you should practice putting it on before you respond to anything or you will likely forget it's there and not use it.

Jeff
 
I own some police type LvL2 armor, but it sits in my closet with my other theatrical use stuff.
Most of the "bump in the night" type situations I believe are "likely" are ones where I wouldn't have a lot of time to be throwing on my flakvest before grabbing my pistol...
YRMV
 
Psshhaw! forget body armor, I keep this next to my bed.
 

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Yes I have body Armor, A really great friend gave me to sets, She said Hey you want these, I smiled and said Nah She laughed and threw them in my Trk, As for puting it on in the middle of the night, Nope, But I do sleep within a grab in the Dark from my AK with a 40rd Mag, I live rural and the Coyotee's and Meth Freeks are a ... how would you say ... Within my AO so that bump in the night would be me bumping my muzzle against your Noggin, Oh an one shot drops are not a myth, Trust me 1100meters with a 60 they dont get up but they do do the Nerve Agent Dance.
 
We have converted an interior walk-in closet to act as a "safe room" and a structured place to ride out a severe storm. I've put ammo, batteries, cables for recharging our cell phones, etc., in there if for no other reason than to give us peace of mind.

But it might not be a bad idea to have something bullet-proof in there in case our home is broken into. We still hang some clothing there, and we could easily hang up body armor.

Twenty years ago even I would dubbed that idea 'paranoid.' Now after two walk-in murders in Madison, I'm not sure what the public is capable of.
 
But it might not be a bad idea to have something bullet-proof in there in case our home is broken into. We still hang some clothing there, and we could easily hang up body armor.

Build a shelf and store it flat.

Jeff
 
It is kinda funny some of the responses.
I picked up a vest a decade ago for work I was doing. It is in my bedroom and I have put it on more then once a yr. When you are in a remote local where half hr Police response is GOOD..... Lets just say I will take every advantage I can take.
A house with outside motion detectors, multiple locked doors, stairs,etc "should" allow plenty of time to stich my arm/head thru side of vest and hook the three velcro straps across my chest. It also allows time to have wife call 911 (if I am sure its trouble) and put my other vest over top. (front zipper type) Grab AR and set up at top of stairs and wait. (reminds me I need to put another water bottle in that vest as I used it last month) :(
IF I don't think its anyone and decide to clear house (and am wrong) the vest might give me a chance. I really don't worry about the DA. It gets to the point that is my primary concern I will dig a hole in back yard and keep it ready for inturders. (3 S)
 
I got an expired vest for free. I hang it on a (safe) wall with a plastic dry cleaning bag over it to have a safe direction to clear weapons.

"Martha! I hear someone downstairs! Get my body armor!"
 
Body armor is great...but do the research, most quality vests will stop most hand gun bullets, but without quality plates the trauma and energy of the round still can damage your insides..in your rush to get "suited up" remember your pants....and cover for the vest....a 'pro' takes a head shot!
 
A quality set of resistant armor apart from being expensive is also heavy, cumbersome and restrictive. The situations we are talking about are effectively classic house clearing and FIBUA.

Your ability to clear the house, unless you are practiced in and comfortable with the armor is going to be noticeably reduced. You bulk up, your reaction ability is impaired, you're chafing, your arms are no longer in the position you normally use to hold your weapon etc.

It also has a nasty habit of inducing a feeling of invulnerability which leads to poor judgment..."Hey I've got a level IIIa vest and trauma plate" not much help with a 00 buck to the head, legs or pelvis/groin

Me, I want to have the adrenaline running and be very sharp and just that bit scared, I'm less likely to play some macho fool BS.
 
I don't have to worry about putting it on...I sleep with it on.

Honestly, depending on what type you have and what caliber you're shot with, you might be better not having one I would think. I mean, if a .45 at point-blank would be enough to puncture the vest and slow it down enough to lodge into you, I'd probably rather have a through-and-through. Saves the hospital from having to dig it out of you.
 
Is it stupid/senseless/insert negative word for a cop or a soldier to wear armor while clearing a room? There's your answer. It will make you seem larger. If you have it, and want to use it, do so. It's your life. And, in many cases, it will give you added security/confidence (not Ramboish bravery) to think and act appropriately. If you're killed, who else is going to defend your loved ones??
 
Nope.
I gotta Youth 20 ga single shot shotgun with a slug handy, what do I need a vest for?.
*seriously*

First off, evil has to get past other measures to get into the structure.
Second, I am not a cop, so I don't clear structures.
Third, evils gots to find me.

-I do not have to retreat where I am, still I have, and will again.
-Shooting lanes with backstops, and cover is what I choose to believe in.
-So evil starts popping off rounds in hopes of flushing me out. I know where evil is, incoming is stopped by such measures taken for me to have cover.
Yes, I shot this stuff before it was implemented.

Not I gots Police, or 911, or somebody on the phone hearing all this racket, my concerns, and I have a time stamp.
The alarm, is going off, and it has a time stamp.


-Evil continues and finds where I am, forces themselves in, and I, in fear of my life and ...

First responders are going be happy I put on some clothes as I normally sleep nekkid, and sometimes just shorts, and maybe a T shirt...then again I sometimes sleep (nap) dressed.

I am not wearing a vest, I have this kids shotgun and evil is not doing evil stuff.
Depending on matters, I may not have to mess with this anymore.
If I do, the Judge and whomever is going hear what I did and someone is liable to mention- "What a prudent person would do in this situation".

"The boy retreated and he did have to?"
"The boy hunkered down and could not retreat anymore if he wanted to?
"You mean to tell me evil kept a coming and forced hisself where that boy was?
"A kids single shot shotgun?

Someone might mention " beyond a reasonable doubt".

"We have time stamps from the alarm, the Cops/911/ Person on the phone, dispatch, arriving first responders...the boy just did what any person would do beyond a reasonable doubt in my mind.
Get this case off my desk, clear this all up and make it legal so evil cannot sue the boy for anything and file a restraining order on evils family and friends".


I can stand with that shotgun at my side and one cannot see it, especially in the dark, or using a door facing in retreating . Total length is 36", 22" of that is a fixed mod barrel. I am 6', and in a normal , relax hold, down at my side, the muzzle does not hit the floor.
I have gone from "side" to first shot on target in .9 seconds. I have been timed at .5 seconds getting first on target if the gun is at low ready.
I hate timers, and it sorta ticks me off, someone timed me when I was in a good mood and in the groove that day.


How fast can one get a vest on?

Like I said, I hate timers, still replicating my bedroom , and CCW I have gotten the first shot off in .9. It was a good day and I was in the groove that day.

I can shoot both that shotgun, and CCW weak handed.
This is how I was raised.

Cops, or whomever is called, is given or knows passwords. I am going to want to hear certain words when first responders show up. WE know we are First Responders and I am me. Communications also means a air horn.
Back up to phone, my inability to communicate where I am and down, all sorts of things.


With other persons in a home...
WE do these things.

Shooting lanes, cover , and backstops.
Code words, passwords , back up communications, like air horn.


Kids, "stop, drop, roll" to that practice cover place and they stay down. They will not get up, until they hear codewords, passwords, or air horn being done a certain way.

$400 for a vest?
One can do a lot for $400, that will keep them from being targeted, make it more difficult to gain access, protect them and others from incoming rounds and give some "armor" against Problem 2.


Tip:
Baby Monitor.

I shared this tip recently with 5 THR members in PMs recently. I know 4 have bought them and I betting the 5th person has.

These monitors are not just for babies, or elderly that live with you.

-You can place in the room with the patio door, and hear the glass breaking.

-The garage, or kitchen, or front door area for the person coming in late that works that late shift, or is on call and comes home.
Codewords, the son, daughter, wife, husband can let the parents, or spouse know it is them coming in, alone, and not entering under force .

If the codeword is the 'Panic one" , meaning some evil has a gun to that person coming in, practiced plans of action are set in motion.

-Set in a hanging flower pot, one can hear what is going on outside the front door when the doorbell rings at 2am.
You can hear evil and the plans, from bed.

It might be the back door one needs to listen to, as at 11pm the dawg needs to go out and the spouse can listen to the other spouse and the dawg taking care of business.
From bed, the spouse hears codewords everything is fine, or not.


One needs to consider a lot, before "go time" and take into consideration Problem 2.
 
I keep an IBA with SAPI plates next to my home defense rifle and electronic ear pro. It takes about 5 seconds to put on IBA. Once I get my suppressor, I'll be able to discard the ear pro.

Definetly worth it.:)
 
let me guess, your home defense weapon has flashlights and lasers on it right? only kidding :evil: oh and no I dont wear a vest when I check out bumps in the night, I just bring Jenny (my 1911A1)
 
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