I did a tread tape modification on my old Ruger P-series pistol a couple of weeks ago. I took it out & shot it Thursday. It had been a while since I last shot it. I did not shoot it as well as I would have liked. I suspect part of that is just that I don't get to shoot enough. I do like the tape on the grips, front strap & backstrap though. It feels much better than either the stock grips or the hogue finger groove grips I had on it. The ergonomics of the 669 I got to shoot just worked for me. It was easy to shoot well. I need to get out & shoot more.
Does Anyone Here Still Carry or Shoot DA/SA?
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I carried a DA/SA gun exclusively for about 10 years.
But, the Beretta APX brought me back into striker fired guns. I no longer have the APX. But, I then jumped to a 5th Gen G19. And now for almost 2 years, I have carried the Shield Plus.
But, the Beretta APX brought me back into striker fired guns. I no longer have the APX. But, I then jumped to a 5th Gen G19. And now for almost 2 years, I have carried the Shield Plus.
CoalTrain49
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P-239 here. I have several. I don't own any strikers. Just never warmed up to them.
chicharrones
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My CZ PCR had fallen out of consideration for carry some time ago due a poor sight picture thanks to my aging eyes. I used the factory glow sights, then small tritium, then small fiber optic. I never could figure out why CZ75 front sights have to be so small as compared to Glock or others.
So, I installed a set of chunky XS big dot sights this week for my 58 year old eyes. Dry fire practice has been promising, so now I need to range test it. If all goes to plan, the PCR should bump out of safe queen status to a carry option.
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So, I installed a set of chunky XS big dot sights this week for my 58 year old eyes. Dry fire practice has been promising, so now I need to range test it. If all goes to plan, the PCR should bump out of safe queen status to a carry option.
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Old Dog
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Kinda disheartened by those who say they hate DA/SA.
In reviewing this thread, I came to the conclusion that those who've worked in occupations where potential situations dictated holding other humans at gunpoint (threat management) fully understand why DA/SA pistols remain a viable concept.
And I get that, for citizens carrying concealed for defensive purposes, striker-fired pistols are understandable.
And for some of us old-timers, single-action semi-autos are still a thing.
But for the life of me, I can't understand the seeming closed-mindedness of those who say they'd never carry or shoot any handgun with DA/SA actions. It's almost as though these folks can't feel confident in training to use certain platforms or understand that it's not the tool, it's mindset, situational awareness and training. I'm at the point now where the guys older than me who exclusively carried and shot revolvers have my total respect. At least they get it.
In reviewing this thread, I came to the conclusion that those who've worked in occupations where potential situations dictated holding other humans at gunpoint (threat management) fully understand why DA/SA pistols remain a viable concept.
And I get that, for citizens carrying concealed for defensive purposes, striker-fired pistols are understandable.
And for some of us old-timers, single-action semi-autos are still a thing.
But for the life of me, I can't understand the seeming closed-mindedness of those who say they'd never carry or shoot any handgun with DA/SA actions. It's almost as though these folks can't feel confident in training to use certain platforms or understand that it's not the tool, it's mindset, situational awareness and training. I'm at the point now where the guys older than me who exclusively carried and shot revolvers have my total respect. At least they get it.
JR24
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I’m a youngish guy who never carried a gun for my profession, and even started on DA/SA guns but I was in the “won’t use em” camp for a number of years.
Why? Simple. I wasn’t proficient enough with the initial DA pull to be happy with my first shot off the draw. Since it’s possibly the most important one a CCW may get, I wanted to be confident (as possible) that one would count. Strikers and SAO simply were easier.
Years pass and I decided, as a tactic to better my shooting as a whole, to knuckle down and learn the DA pull. Simple enough to do with lots of dry fire and relatively little range time.
Now I’m equally confident with any pistol trigger I can pick up, and learning a long DA pull (my practice gun is an HK, notorious for the “poor” end of the DA spectrum, I think they are fine) had made me a better shooter with every trigger.
It’s a project I’m happy I undertook, and holstering with a thumb over hammer surely makes me feel safer than some other options, though I prefer to holster off body anyway.
Anybody post this: https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/3-reasons-i-carry-a-hammer-fired-da-sa-pistol-and-always-will/
Actually, I like strikers, 1911s and 3rd Gen SWs. Can shoot them all decently.
Actually, I like strikers, 1911s and 3rd Gen SWs. Can shoot them all decently.
sevt_chevelle
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The last striker gun I bought I was pretty stroked about, S&W metal competitor.
It was a disappointing gun not worth the price of admission. Got sold after 120 rds. A CZ TS2 orange now sits in its place.
I do have a gen 1 shield that I carry that was milled for a dot, but once I figure out what I what in terms of a dot on my CZ p01, that shield goes back inside.
It was a disappointing gun not worth the price of admission. Got sold after 120 rds. A CZ TS2 orange now sits in its place.
I do have a gen 1 shield that I carry that was milled for a dot, but once I figure out what I what in terms of a dot on my CZ p01, that shield goes back inside.
I'll blame the Youtube "trainers", and I use that term loosely, and other channels. I dont remember the hatred until they were claiming that a single trigger pull was best.
Course never mind the fact that there was a gentleman that was unbeatable in USPSA shooting DA/SA in Production. Championships in 2011, 2012, 2013, 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, and 2019.
Trampstamp
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Aren't most, if not all, striker fired guns technically DAO ?
Most are called DAO but they aren't really true DAO. Many striker guns (Glock) are partially cocked once the slide has been racked. That way they get a shorter, lighter trigger pull. The XD I used to have was actually Single Action although Springfield called it Universal Safe Action or some such. Someone correct me if I am wrong but Walther actually made a model (the P99AS) that could be used DAO, DA/SA or SAO. I don't think they make it anymore but unless I'm mistaken Canik does still make a clone of it. Not all but many of the Taurus striker fired guns are SA/DA. You get a single action pull first but if the round does not fire you can pull the trigger again & get a second strike with a Double Action trigger (I couldn't tell much difference in the 2 pulls on the PT 111 MIllenium Pro G2 I had). The partially cocked thing is why I don't consider them true Double Action Only.
It can actually get a bit confusing.
JTQ
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Sort of, at least that's what the makers would like you to believe. However, functionally (other than completing the cocking of the striker on some models, which technically makes them DA), they function much more like a single action auto. You need the slide to cock the striker, just like a single action auto needs the slide to cock the hammer. Almost all striker fired guns will have no second strike capability, just like a single action auto.
A DAO or DA/SA auto pistol only needs the trigger to cock the hammer. Most DAO or DA/SA pistols will have second strike capability.
Most striker fired guns are their own animal. Neither fish nor fowl.
I often share this Ernest Langdon video on the features of the Beretta 92. If you're interested in the Beretta M9/92, the whole video is good, but otherwise, you can skip to about the 2:05 mark
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JTQ
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Since we're on the subject, this is another Ernest Langdon video that may worthwhile
tjmga
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Of course. I have tried and sold all my striker fired guns except for one. All my pistols except for this one are DA/SA.
chicharrones
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jar
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CoalTrain49
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For those that hate the DA/SA first shot trigger HK makes a pistol for you. LEM or law enforcement mod gives you the same trigger tension every shot. The only difference is the take up on the first shot is considerably longer. There's even a light LEM trigger. I'd say my P-30 is about 5 lbs. every shot.
Some people hate those triggers, and HK's, but I find them to be the DA/SA first shot fix.
Some people hate those triggers, and HK's, but I find them to be the DA/SA first shot fix.
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trackskippy
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All that tells me is, you havent shot the Glock the little bit that it takes, to know it.
And the Glocks, and most other autos grip angles really are not all that different when you actually compare them. The Glocks and 1911 "A1's" have pretty much the same angle, so it makes you wonder about the complaints. And the fact that they modified the 1911's to the A1's the way they did makes it even more perplexing.
I have and shoot many of the major auto types and they have all the different types of grips and actions. I switch back and forth at will too and have no trouble doing so. Its just a matter of letting your brain get to know them and then it adjusts as it needs to.
jar
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That still offers no reason that I should put in any effort to adapt to Glocks.
Is there any reason why I should put in any effort to adapt to Glocks?
I have no issues moving between any of the handguns I own. Is there anything Glock offers that is more desirable than anything I already have?
JR24
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jar
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Yet once again, you do not answer the question or make any suggestion of why I should put in any effort to adapt to a Glock!
But the topic is whether there is anyone still shooting DA/SA pistols and the answer there is simple. Yes there is!
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