I'm curious if anyone here has sold their reloads? I had considered this maybe, but I wanted to know if anyone else has done it, and what their experience/feedback has been. I reload for friends but I haven't charged other than for materials.
Does anyone sell their reloads?
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braindead0
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Are you nuts??? The liability insurance premiums would be outrageous.
Frohickey
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Not me.
I try not to accept offers by others to shoot their homemade reloaded ammunition, or their specialty ammo.
I include a very strong caveat to others if I offer my homemade reloaded ammunition to them to try out, out of their guns.
I try not to accept offers by others to shoot their homemade reloaded ammunition, or their specialty ammo.
I include a very strong caveat to others if I offer my homemade reloaded ammunition to them to try out, out of their guns.
Edward429451
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No way. But usually some friend or friend of a friend tags along. Theu usually offer to buy some ammo so I direct them to the coffee can in reloading room which gets used to buy componants. Kinda like a cover charge. Wanna come? Pitch in a little!
I've sold the occasional box of ammo but nothing big. My expirence with brand X reloads has been mixed. If the company just started and are still making ammo on a low volume quality has remained good, but I have had sevaral companys that I bought ammo from start screwing up when they started to load more than they were used to some times no primer or powder sometimes incosistent powder amount.
Nanook
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JoeHatley nailed it, you need to apply for an FFL allowing you to sell manufactured ammunition. Not to mention the liability insurance you'd need as several have said. I get asked quite often to make and sell reloads for people who don't want to go to the bother of reloading themselves. I always politely decline. Aside from the legal aspects, in today's litigious society it just isn't worth the risk.
coonan357
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Sell NEver!!! , I have people who wanted me to relaod for them , I kindly offer the use of my machines to do it with and walk them thru the process , then they ussually go out and buy there own equipment when they get confident enough , I have a few buddies who don't want to buy the equipment so they buy me components as a rental fee , one was nice enough to bring me 4 5gallon buckets of assorted used brass , funny he didn't help me sort it thou.... took several weeks but he wanted his specific caliber of brass .. Hmm figures 
I charged him a nominal Handleing fee 5cents a shell , had to scrap alot of unusable brass . I have one guy who is a marine reservist ( waiting for his call Now ) I will load him ammo for free when I LOad a certain recipe up , He likes my loads all he does is bring me the used brass .. ocassionally some powder .
I charged him a nominal Handleing fee 5cents a shell , had to scrap alot of unusable brass . I have one guy who is a marine reservist ( waiting for his call Now ) I will load him ammo for free when I LOad a certain recipe up , He likes my loads all he does is bring me the used brass .. ocassionally some powder .grijim
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dear Zero:
Several years ago a freind of mine used to make up and sell reloads. He loaded some 7mm. Mag . for another buddy and at the time I gave both of these guys supream s--t.The incident went as follows.
Buddy that had the loads done went on a hunt and damn near got himself killed.The had just began to gut a moose buddies freind had shot when they heard a blood curdelling growl and carshing toward them in the bush. They turned in time to see a wolverine comming at them. Buddy panic fired a shot and missed , he went to chamber a second round and the round would not chamber. Luckilly the animal verred off and ran back into the bush.
Of course the first thing buddy does when he gets home is call me to tell me how his wife could be a rich widow between the law suit and the insurance.I proceed to give him holy hell. First of all I was a mortician before I became a millwright.One thing I always hated was feinds funnerals and needless ones.I told that God gave a fle more brains. You always chamber each round throgh the rifle before you do anything. I phoned my other freind and gave him what for about his loading.I never even load for myself without checking each round through the rifle to be sure they chamber.
Believe me you don't want to get into commercial reloading unless you do it full time,can afford lots insurance and get about 10 good years of re-loading under your belt.
I am not the brightest crayon in the box, but I've experianced a few things,that was one that changed my mind if I ever thought about custom loading.
Grijim
dear Zero:
Several years ago a freind of mine used to make up and sell reloads. He loaded some 7mm. Mag . for another buddy and at the time I gave both of these guys supream s--t.The incident went as follows.
Buddy that had the loads done went on a hunt and damn near got himself killed.The had just began to gut a moose buddies freind had shot when they heard a blood curdelling growl and carshing toward them in the bush. They turned in time to see a wolverine comming at them. Buddy panic fired a shot and missed , he went to chamber a second round and the round would not chamber. Luckilly the animal verred off and ran back into the bush.
Of course the first thing buddy does when he gets home is call me to tell me how his wife could be a rich widow between the law suit and the insurance.I proceed to give him holy hell. First of all I was a mortician before I became a millwright.One thing I always hated was feinds funnerals and needless ones.I told that God gave a fle more brains. You always chamber each round throgh the rifle before you do anything. I phoned my other freind and gave him what for about his loading.I never even load for myself without checking each round through the rifle to be sure they chamber.
Believe me you don't want to get into commercial reloading unless you do it full time,can afford lots insurance and get about 10 good years of re-loading under your belt.
I am not the brightest crayon in the box, but I've experianced a few things,that was one that changed my mind if I ever thought about custom loading.
Grijim
Quantrill
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Been there, Done that! Got the FFL. Sold the reloads. Then the BATF kindly informed my homeowner insurance carrier that I had a cartridge manufacturing factory in my home. Guess how much more my premiums were to be. Guess what the local township had to say about zoning. Sent back the FFL. Informed everybody I was no longer in business. Kept all the equipment, still loaded for myself. But no factory so no problems. Quantrill
Edward429451
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Anybody know if you have to have an FFL to sell just componants? If you didnt sell live ammo would this negate the need for insurance?
FFL-6, liability ins, Business license, zoning permit, fire inspection, sales tax license, DBA, papers to incorporate, .....
If the ATF catches you selling without the FFL-6, you will be posting to The High Road from Bubba's Barred Pleasure Palace! BTW, you do not need the FFL to sell components, but you need it to get significant dicounts (more profit).
-Mike
If the ATF catches you selling without the FFL-6, you will be posting to The High Road from Bubba's Barred Pleasure Palace! BTW, you do not need the FFL to sell components, but you need it to get significant dicounts (more profit).
-Mike
AM THERE DOING IT
Required: FFL06
Nice: liability insurance, resistance to lead dust, hernias, and arthritis.
Without the FFL06 it is a Federal felony to 'distribute' loaded ammo, UNLESS using ALL COMPONENTS SUPPLIED BY CUSTOMER.
Required: FFL06
Nice: liability insurance, resistance to lead dust, hernias, and arthritis.
Without the FFL06 it is a Federal felony to 'distribute' loaded ammo, UNLESS using ALL COMPONENTS SUPPLIED BY CUSTOMER.
JPM70535
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Not a good idea. Unless the person you are dealing with is a personal friend I would not even give him reloads. Too much chance of a lawsuit should Murphys Law kick in.
I have a select few reloader friends who I shoot with regularly. We will shoot each others loads, but we have known each other for years and know each others reloading habits.
I have a select few reloader friends who I shoot with regularly. We will shoot each others loads, but we have known each other for years and know each others reloading habits.
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I don't have time to keep up with my own shooting.
Let me tell you a story that happened to me years ago. I had an Auto Ordinance 1911 that I felt was a POS. So I sold it to a guy I worked with. I am fairly certain that he had never owned a gun before. He asked me about reloading some ammo for him. I told him no, I actually made some excuse. He hounded me and hounded me for weeks about reloading him some ammo. And I told him no time after time, but he never let up. I finally gave up and loaded for him. Of course you can guess what happened; the gun blew up. Now at the time I was loading on a single stage press. I was charging my cases in a loading block so all the cases were charged in one step and I could observe that all the cases had the same amount of powder in them etc. I have never double charged a case in tens of thousands of rounds of reloading before or since then. I don't know what happened to his gun, but I am 99.999999% that it wasn't my reloads. I am poistive it wasn't my reloads. It sounded to me like he had a bore obstruction to me based on what he told me. He wasn't an experience shooter, who knows what he did ? Of course the first thing he did when he got home was to call me. Now at the time, I didn't have anything to sue for. And he wasn't all that nasty about it, but he did blame my reloaded ammo and was convinced it was my fault. I realized right there, that anyone that reloads for someone else or worse yet sells their reloads is a fool (no personal attack intended, sorry). You have no control over what the end user does, but if he has a problem, he is going to blame you. And in todays world that could cost you everything you have; and for what ? To make a buck or two a box of 50 ? That is a false sense of economy.
I don't have time to keep up with my own shooting.
Let me tell you a story that happened to me years ago. I had an Auto Ordinance 1911 that I felt was a POS. So I sold it to a guy I worked with. I am fairly certain that he had never owned a gun before. He asked me about reloading some ammo for him. I told him no, I actually made some excuse. He hounded me and hounded me for weeks about reloading him some ammo. And I told him no time after time, but he never let up. I finally gave up and loaded for him. Of course you can guess what happened; the gun blew up. Now at the time I was loading on a single stage press. I was charging my cases in a loading block so all the cases were charged in one step and I could observe that all the cases had the same amount of powder in them etc. I have never double charged a case in tens of thousands of rounds of reloading before or since then. I don't know what happened to his gun, but I am 99.999999% that it wasn't my reloads. I am poistive it wasn't my reloads. It sounded to me like he had a bore obstruction to me based on what he told me. He wasn't an experience shooter, who knows what he did ? Of course the first thing he did when he got home was to call me. Now at the time, I didn't have anything to sue for. And he wasn't all that nasty about it, but he did blame my reloaded ammo and was convinced it was my fault. I realized right there, that anyone that reloads for someone else or worse yet sells their reloads is a fool (no personal attack intended, sorry). You have no control over what the end user does, but if he has a problem, he is going to blame you. And in todays world that could cost you everything you have; and for what ? To make a buck or two a box of 50 ? That is a false sense of economy.
Trsnrtr
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I don't sell, give or lend anyone my reloads. The only time I let anyone shoot my reloads is when they are using my guns under my supervision. If someone is going to Kb a gun, it's going to be mine and when I'm watching to make sure they didn't do anything wierd.
I'm generally not a worrisome sort, but reloading for others gives me the creepies.
I'm generally not a worrisome sort, but reloading for others gives me the creepies.
JollyWhiteGiant
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The only other person I re-load for is my 73 year old grandfather, he pays me for the components I use for making them only.
Since this thread was dredged up again let me tell you another story. I work with a guy that is not a shooter, but is a hunter. He is the type of guy that zeroed his rifle 10 years ago, has shot his deer every year, and that is the extent of is shooting. He doesn't know much about guns but of course claims he does becuase he spends a week every year deer hunting and this makes him an expert on guns. Anyway, this guy goes to another guy we worked with and ask him to load him up some super accurate, hot, .30-06 loads for his deer rifle. The second guy is stupid enough to do it. For about a year afterwards I heard about how Ron's reloads screwed up this guys deer rifle. I let it go in one ear and out the other because I know this guy is an idiot, but finally after hearing it over and over I finally broke down and asked just exactly what did Ron's reloads do to his gun. He says, I don't know, it just never shot the same after that, I had to sell it. I said, well did it blow up ? No. Did the case come apart ? No, it just wasn't right.
So, this idiot is convinced his rifle "just isn't right" and has spent years telling everyone that will listen that Ron's loads ruined his deer rifle, yet he can't give me any tangilbe evidence of what they did to screw up his rifle or what was screwed up about the rifle.
So, this idiot is convinced his rifle "just isn't right" and has spent years telling everyone that will listen that Ron's loads ruined his deer rifle, yet he can't give me any tangilbe evidence of what they did to screw up his rifle or what was screwed up about the rifle.
cratz2
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Have a buddy that loads up 243, 270 and 25-06 for me. He's been shooting and loading for pert near forever. He's on disability so appreciates the extra money. I usually give him the brass and bullets and he loads 50 for $20, probably about 300-400 rounds a month in said calibers. It doesn't take him any time, the money's decent and I trust him implicitly. He borrowed the rifles to work up the loads for, they're not just thrown together. I consider our arrangement mutually beneficial and greatly enjoy his services.
Having said that, I would not trust any one elses reloads and if I did reload, I would absolutely not provide servies for free or for pay.
Having said that, I would not trust any one elses reloads and if I did reload, I would absolutely not provide servies for free or for pay.
Mannlicher
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Considering how much time it takes me to load, no one could afford the hand labor. lol
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