No matter what I am carrying, a Mak is always along; sometimes Mak alone. They are tough as nails, reliable as any pistol I have ever seen, and very very accurate. All three of mine shoot hollowpoints just fine; and I use Silver Bear (Russian) 115g hollowpoints at 1025 fps. This round is an exceptionally good penetrator. As an impromptu test, I filled two one galloin milk jugs with jello, and let it set up in the fridge. (sorry, no ballistic gelatin on the farm). I set up a piece of 1/2 inch plywood between the jugs. Can't really tell you very much since the round went through it all. Second milk jug looked just as bad as another set I shot with a 9mm. I have been looking at it from a slightly different point of view. Any weapon of decent power will do the job. After a shooting, your pistol will be confiscated as evidence. Even if ruled justifiable, depending on your jurisdiction, you may well never see that piece again. I'd be pretty heartbroken if some damn fool judge destroyed my 1911, BHP, P7, Sig, etc "for the good of society"; I wouldn't be happy if they destroyed my Mak; I'd just go buy three more though.