Does the NAA Guardian .32 Have Any Advantage Over the Seecamp?

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Kestrel

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I have a couple of custom NAA Guardians that I'm tempted to sell and get a Seecamp .32. Before I do that, do the Guardians have any benefit over the Seecamp? (Well, other than being able to retract the slide if the magazine is out... and being able to fire it if the magazine is damaged or lost... and having some miniscule sights...)

But other than that, any reason to choose a Guardian over a Seecamp, price notwithstanding?

Is either more reliable than the other?

Thanks!
 
I think the question needs to be reversed since the Seecamp is the more expensive of the two. I have the Guardian .32 and have never had a malfunction with it regardless of the ammo so IMO the Guardian is a jewel of a little gun. The only advantage the Seecamp has is that it is an ounce or two lighter I believe.
 
No. The seecamp is the finer weapon and if you ever have a problem (which you wont) you can trot over the the seecamp forums and ask larry seecamp himself.

I have many pistols, and most would go before I got rid of my seecamp.
 
In my opinion the only difference that matters is in the take-down proceedure. With Seecamp you do need a tool, actually two. Once one learns to do it, it is easy, but the fact is you need a tool. Both are good guns that fill a special use. I carry a Seecamp because it is smaller and lighter and that is the whole idea.
 
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FWIW Dept:

I purchased my NAA Guardian new approx. 8 years ago. (It's an AA series). I wanted a Seecamp at the time, but they were being scalped at $800+ with a long delay.

My Guardian had some ftf problems very early on, but one return trip to NAA for warranty work solved that problem. I was even given a free magazine for my trouble, and in the ensuing 7+ years it has never faultered once.

I am well pleased with my Guardian, and if you have two custom Guardians and are pleased with them I certainly would not be selling them to buy a Seecamp.

For all practical purposes the Guardian will do everything the Seecamp will.. When I bought my new LWS32 I never considered selling my Guardian to pay for it.

Now for the Seecamp.

First, Seecamps and new Guardians are very close in retail price. I ordered my Seecamp online (from Ron Gilyard, Alvin Tx. 1-281-686-5093) from a dealer recommended on the Seecamp forum. Ron sold me my new Seecamp for $380, + $20 shipping, + $35 extra mag.. Or: $435. I then paid my local ffl transfer dealer $25 for the transfer, so paid a total of $460.

The Seecamp is obviously almost a custom made pistol... IMO it is the "Rolls Royce" of mouseguns, and it is smaller than the Guardian.. Not much smaller as the picture shows, but the difference is surprisingly apparent when you cc the pistol. The Seecamp just seems to "hide" easier, and it's lighter than the Guardian too.

The first time my wife held my Seecamp she said "This is MY gun"... I didn't fall for that line, but I did order her a personalized Seecamp LWS from Ron yesterday. My bride and I have been married for almost 40 years, and "if Mama ain't happy, ain't nobody happy"...

The bottom line is that either pistol will serve you well. The Guardian is in my estimation a quality firearm.. The Seecamp, ime, is simply in a class of it's very own. It's not often I can afford the "best of anything" (on my retirement check), but I consider the Seecamp LWS32 the absolute best of it's type.

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Additionally, it's almost worth buying a Seecamp pistol just to join the online Seecamp family at www.seecamp.com... Nicest bunch of folks you've ever seen, and Larry Seecamp monitors the forum. You have a question about your Seecamp, you ask the man who made it.

I don't put down NAA Guardians.. My Guardian has been excellent, and NAA Customer Service is super.

I would never sell a custom Guardian that had given me excellent service just to buy another pistol that I no experience with, other than the reputation that pistol has..

But I WOULD save up my money, and buy a Seecamp. If it turns out you don't like it you will have NO trouble selling it later.. Betcha' if you ever get one of Larry's little jewels in your hands you won't part with it.. ;)

Just my old fart opinion..

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy

P.S. The only concern I had about the Seecamp before buying one was the "disassembly" business of needing a "tool" to do it. I use a small punch and I've found disassembling and cleaning my Seecamp is easier than doing so to my Guardian... Go figure..
 
PX15,

Very well said. My Guardians are the .32 and the .380. I think I may go ahead and add a Seecamp .32 and some mags. I may give your friend a call.

By the way, I had a Seecamp .32 (briefly), maybe around 15 years ago (?). At that time, I paid scalper's prices for it ($600) and could NOT buy a second mag. Also, I could never get anyone at Seecamp to answer the phone, so I ended up selling it for what I paid. I've read things are much better with their customer service now, though.

Thanks again.
 
Kestrel:

I have heard that several years ago Seecamp did have some problems and extra mags. were sorta difficult to obtain.

It is my understanding from reading on the Seecamp forum that those issues are long resolved, and in fact Larry Seecamp has his "Ask Larry Seecamp" section on the Seecamp forum, plus his office and cell phone numbers are available for anyone who needs to speak to him personally.. I have spoken to him on one occasion regarding ammunition and he seems a fine gentleman.

Call him if you like..

My wife is very excited about getting her "personalized" Seecamp. Seecamps are of such quality that they should be "passed down" when no longer needed, and having a special serial number will give it extra family sentimental value. It costs $40 extra for a specific serial number, but I think it's well worth the money if you care about such things. My wife does..

Check out the forum and you'll see what I'm talking about.

Hope this helps,

Best Wishes,

J. Pomeroy


P.S. My Seecamp LOVES Gold Dots & feeds the cheaper Winchester Q4255's fine too. (I plink with the Q4255's and carry the Gold Dots)
 
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