Does the UN want to shut us down?

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Found this in my news paper yesterday. :fire:

Tuesday, November 22, 2005

Internet survives hijack attempt
U.N. summit turns aside efforts to take oversight of the Web away from U.S.

By ED ROYCE

ABOUT THE AUTHOR
Rep. Ed Royce, R-Fullerton, is a senior member of the House Committee on International Relations


Freedom has dodged a bullet - but it isn't in the clear, yet.

In the North African nation of Tunisia, the United Nations-sponsored World Summit on the Information Society (WSIS) met last week under the guise of eliminating the "digital divide." Instead, the WSIS transformed into an effort to wrest control of the Internet away from you and me and place it under the control of U.N. bureaucrats. Luckily, this didn't happen - yet.

The Internet started with research funding provided by the Defense Department to establish a military network. (No, Al Gore didn't invent it.) As its use expanded and a market developed, the government got out. In the 1990s the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers took over responsibility, with oversight from the Commerce Department. This nonprofit corporation manages day-to- day operations of the Internet's domain-name and addressing system, with each nation's country-code Top-Level Domain (.com or .uk, for instance) remaining sovereign and subject to the policies and administration of its own government.

So, given that the Internet is such a profound achievement, why play with success? In the run-up to the summit, enemies of free expression, such as China, Iran, Saudi Arabia and Cuba, teamed up to attempt to eliminate the United States' traditionally benign oversight role with the Internet and replace it with a U.N. group. Just as human-rights violators have been able to hijack the U.N. Commission on Human Rights, we can only presume that those rejecting free speech hope to get a foot in the door and shut down freedom of expression. No longer would the Internet be a bastion of freedom, a forum for people to express their thoughts and ideas, but perhaps become a highly censored version of its former self.

For proof, look no further than China, where Web sites are censored by what has become known as the "Great Red Firewall." Services such as Google and Yahoo are heavily filtered for sensitive content. Searches for "freedom" or "democracy" yield few, if any results.

Other countries, such as Vietnam, have pursued similar policies.

Such censorship is inimical to the current oversight with which the Internet has been accustomed. If we are to successfully combat oppressive regimes, we ought to fight for the ability of people everywhere to freely express themselves.

The Internet has quickly become one of the most important components of free enterprise. To the benefit of millions of entrepreneurs, it is an essential and vital tool in global commerce. International business transactions take place with a mouse click.

Fortunately, efforts to wrest away control of the Internet were rebuffed. Instead, the summit produced an agreement to establish a toothless international forum to simply discuss Internet issues. It's harmless, for now.

You can bet that governments resentful of the United States will continue their line of argument that it is not control of the Internet they seek, just the benefits it brings. Yet, as our U.N. Ambassador John Bolton warned, "Greater benefits means a greater say in how those benefits are distributed, and that's the camel's nose under the tent that we have to be very careful of. Whatever happens in [Tunisia] I don't think that's the end of the issue."

The instruments of the free-enterprise system - like the Internet - will be constantly under attack, requiring relentless vigilance on all of our parts. U.N. control of the Internet would pose a serious danger to freedom - a chance we cannot take. To maintain its integrity, we must continue to oppose those who wish to regulate and suppress it.

ANNAN COMMENT
An Associated Press account of the World Summit on the Information Society quoted U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan as telling the meeting: "The United States deserves our thanks for having developed the Internet and making it available to the world. But I think you also all acknowledge the need for more international participation in discussions of Internet governance issues."



No I don't have to acknowledge any such thing. :cuss:
 
We discussed this earlier. It came down to some countries wanting control of their own high level domains (.fr etc). That seems to have been resolved.

Other countries wanted to censor and control what got into their country. Usual suspects like China and Iran. That got shot down.
 
Yup. And tell your anti friends who support the UN gun ban about this. See what they say.
 
U.N. control of the Internet would pose a serious danger to freedom - a chance we cannot take. To maintain its integrity, we must continue to oppose those who wish to regulate and suppress it.
I don’t care for the UN, they can kiss my …….!
 
The UN scares me!

For twenty years they have tried to become the very despots they were supposed to save the world from! US outta the UN NOW!

:banghead:
 
I think they view this as the replacement for "Oil for Food" that was so lucrative for various UN officials. It's always about the money.
 
The UN want's to be actively anti US and needs a revenue stream that is independant of the US government... The attempt to hijack the internet is an attempt to make them some cash....
 
The Drew said:
The UN want's to be actively anti US and needs a revenue stream that is independant of the US government... The attempt to hijack the internet is an attempt to make them some cash....
Yeah, since they can't fill their pocket's with Saddam's oil money anymore.
 
+1 longeyes

for the children........please put your hands together...move your body side to side....for the children.....
(wheres Bono)

sorry what where we talking about??:eek:
 
Hmm, why not just cut access off for any country desiring to change control of the internet. Then allow them to pursue their dreams, develop their own internet. Lack of internet would be a good spur for them to develop their own. I say give them a helping hand. The unwashed whiners of the UN could even get together and develop a UN internet. Not a problem. <A little deletion by Art>
 
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The U.N. has done some good things in feeding famine victims and in health care but their social engineering scares me.Personally, I'd like to see the U.S. out of the U.N. and the U.N. out of the U.S. Send it to France and let them pay he bills.
 
The Drew said:
The UN want's to be actively anti US and needs a revenue stream that is independant of the US government... The attempt to hijack the internet is an attempt to make them some cash....

The very fact that the US holds control of the root servers is a big reason for the success of the internet. The minute tyrants and despots gain control of the internet is the minute businesses and those who want to use the internet to push economic prosperity are in deep trouble.

Do you want the third world to control the internet? Feel like investing in the internet then?
 
A Typical of the UN

They are nothing but a bunch of tin pot rullers, dictators, and thugs that cannot run their own coutries with out messing it up. So their answer to wanting something they did not invent, have any rights to, or invest in as in their own coutries is attempt to steal it, or litigate it into their own pocket. Just like they want to do with our guns.:cuss:
 
Sheldon J said:
They are nothing but a bunch of tin pot rullers, dictators, and thugs that cannot run their own coutries with out messing it up. So their answer to wanting something they did not invent, have any rights to, or invest in as in their own coutries is attempt to steal it, or litigate it into their own pocket. Just like they want to do with our guns.:cuss:

It's pretty sinister. They want control of the internet because it's a source of information that they cannot control. How do you sensor information on a blog posted on the internet when data can be transfered so fast and mirrored around the world? The only answer they have is to control it all. Can't have the truth be getting out about the local tyrants.
 
Headless Thompson Gunner said:
If the UN wants its own giant computer network, why don't they do what we did and build their own? Why do they hafta take ours? :fire:

Well, we could give them a top level domain, say .un and see how they managed... :evil:
 
The U.N. has done some good things in feeding famine victims and in health care but their social engineering scares me.Personally, I'd like to see the U.S. out of the U.N. and the U.N. out of the U.S. Send it to France and let them pay he bills.

I agree with KYLarry 100%. I too think that the US has footed enough of the UN's bill for far too long. I think in the days after WWII, the purpose of the Marshall Plan to contain communism made it beneficial to have the headquarters located in the US. Today, the communist threat takes a back seat to the threat of terrorism on US soil. Maybe, I'm old fashioned, but I could never see myself other than a US citizen. Swearing allegiance to the UN is not an option for me. The whole EU, UN, & various other global summits should not be fooled to think that they can dictate US policy, and American citizens would embrace those ideals with open arms.
 
are you kidding with this thread title??? The UN wants us weak and IMHO is active on being against us. They want to be the central authority of the world.
Problem is that some U.S. citizens want them to be the central authority of the world. Another problem is that some U.S. want to U.S. to be the central authority of the world.:banghead:
 
The Drew said:
The UN want's to be actively anti US and needs a revenue stream that is independant of the US government... The attempt to hijack the internet is an attempt to make them some cash....

Yup. Check out the LOST proposal. It is a treaty that gives the UN the power to license and collect revenue from off-shore oil rigs, among other things.

The UN must be stopped.
 
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