Donald Trump Jr. launches gun rights group, vows to fight Democratic gun control proposals

[Aim1]

Interesting. A legitimate group or just a political stunt?


I do know he is a 2nd Amendment advocate. I also know he pushed for the Hearing Protection Act for suppressors and that never happened while his dad was president.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/donald-trump-jr-launches-gun-rights-group-vows-fight

 

[Wolfshead]

I’m all for it, we need all the help we can get.
unfortunately I believe that this battle for our second amendment rights is more of a journey than a destination and it will be a constant battle.

 

[TTv2]

I thought it was Eric Trump who was big into guns?

IDK if we need another gun rights group that plays second fiddle to the NRA, but if the Trump Rifle Association is aiming to replace the NRA as the top dog of gun lobbies, then I'm all for it as the NRA needs to go. What I would rather see is Don Jr.s new group being one to sort of form a pact or union with all the other national and state gun rights groups into some kind of alliance that they still have their own things going on, but they team up on defeating real onerous stuff that gets cooked up like a bad batch of meth in DC or from a blue state/city. This way no one group becomes quite so large and powerful to the extent that the clueless members who blindly had faith in WLP and ignored reality and allowed Sauron to seize the ring of power for eternity.

Basically, create enough of a buffer to stop a repeat of the NRA because obviously the members can't be trusted to be asked to pay attention.

 

[TTv2]

I’m all for it, we need all the help we can get.
unfortunately I believe that this battle for our second amendment rights is more of a journey than a destination and it will be a constant battle.

Price of freedom is eternal vigilance.

 

[redcon1]

I'd like to get him on the record as being 100% in support of the hearing protection act and nationwide concealed carry reciprocity. He took a knee at the end zone on both issues last time around as far as I'm concerned and it won't be forgotten.
And then of course there's the bumpstock issue, the issue of 80% lower receivers, binary triggers, over reaching BATFE,

 

[Zerodefect]

Yeah we do. The NRA sucks. I'm all for this.

The HPA was a small potato. Getting a suppressor is just a game of waiting 12 months. It sucks, but hardly Mount Everest. Maybe now isn't the time,

Nearly everyone (I know) that's going to carry, seems to be carrying everywhere already. No care given about reciprocity. Some people live by their rights, not ask for them. The corrupt evil gov't is welcome to deal with it.

With constitutional carry being passed everywhere worth going to, how long before states start constitutional reciprocity as well? It's an easy way to get votes.

 

[DoubleMag]

...support of the hearing protection act and nationwide concealed carry reciprocity. He took a knee at the end zone on both issues last time...

I'm remembering the HPA being folded up as a wet paper by Rep. Ryan, when HE folded like a wet paper sack after Hillary shrilled . She screeched after the Mandolin Bay incident. Something like, screech if he DID HAVE a silencer it would've been worse screech. And Ryan quickly withdrew the bill, just as if he was looking for an excuse to.

 

[Double Naught Spy]

And then of course there's the bumpstock issue, ...

The bumpstock issue his father pressed for as POTUS?
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/20/us/politics/trump-bump-stocks.html

 

[redcon1]

I'm remembering the HPA being folded up as a wet paper by Rep. Ryan, when HE folded like a wet paper sack after Hillary shrilled . She screeched after the Mandolin Bay incident. Something like, screech if he DID HAVE a silencer it would've been worse screech. And Ryan quickly redrew the bill, just as if he was looking for an excuse to.

I remember it differently. I remember Don Jr. assuring us that "obviously his father would be supportive of the HPA" and all but guaranteeing us that his father would sign the bill and then I remember a guy using a suppressor in a mass shooting and a short time after that I remember Donald Trump telling Piers Morgan "I don't like silencers" and that he was going to "seriously look at banning them" right after bragging about banning bump stocks and that was the end of the HPA. So I'll need more than honeyed words and vague assurances this time around. I want hard promises because AFAIC, we were conned.

 

[AlexanderA]

Non-story. We've seen this all before -- getting our hopes up, and then letting us down.

 

[GBExpat]

His lips were moving ...

 

[jmorris]

Interesting. A legitimate group or just a political stunt?

I am going to go with political stunt if it’s an A or B multiple choice question.

You remember his “pro 2nd Amendment” Father who said, “Take the guns first. Go through due process second, I like taking the guns early,”

And set the precedent, of making existing products illegal, no grandfathering, no compensation, nothing. All with out new law just another “interpretation” of existing law. It is this “interpretation”, that is the new tool against us. You don’t need to change law, just decide what it means to you, when you are in powder.

At least the Dems don’t lie to us and are forthcoming with their intent to disarm us.

Before I get pounced on, I voted for the guy twice because he was the lesser of two evils. I had no illusions though, when I cast my vote.

If he is successful in a political bit or touts reversing his Fathers decision and other harmful 2nd Amendment infringements, I would be more than happy to change my opinion.

 

[jar]

Grifters gotta grift.

 

[starnbar]

I know one thing for certain if they start asking for money it is only about what they can get for them selves. Everyone in the USA has the right to petition the government for redress and to be heard for it.

 

[Zerodefect]

Well, I think Trump laid down the "Exactly how to win elections." bit. No wonder that Desantis and others are picking it up.

 

[Speedo66]

And his bona fides are what? No thanks.

 

[Old Dog]

IDK if we need another gun rights group that plays second fiddle to the NRA,

These days, the current NRA is second fiddle, maybe not even that, third or fourth fiddle...In terms of constructive litigation and productive help in states that are fighting gun issues, there are at least three organizations I know of that are far more effective and helpful than the NRA.

I would not trust any Trump to do what they claim. Liars and scammers one and all as far as I'm concerned!!

Without getting too off-track, his dad did pretty much accomplish all his objectives in his one term. "Liars and scammers?" Kinda like the present leadership of the NRA, eh?

And his bona fides are what?

He's a well-connected political celebrity. As was noted, the RKBA movement can, and should, accept support that's offered from any quarter.

 

[Poper]

I thought it was Eric Trump who was big into guns?

IDK if we need another gun rights group that plays second fiddle to the NRA, but if the Trump Rifle Association is aiming to replace the NRA as the top dog of gun lobbies, then I'm all for it as the NRA needs to go. What I would rather see is Don Jr.s new group being one to sort of form a pact or union with all the other national and state gun rights groups into some kind of alliance that they still have their own things going on, but they team up on defeating real onerous stuff that gets cooked up like a bad batch of meth in DC or from a blue state/city. This way no one group becomes quite so large and powerful to the extent that the clueless members who blindly had faith in WLP and ignored reality and allowed Sauron to seize the ring of power for eternity.

Basically, create enough of a buffer to stop a repeat of the NRA because obviously the members can't be trusted to be asked to pay attention.

Well, it didn't take very long for this to devolve into a "Let's Bash the NRA Thread", did it?

Here is another bit of info: https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...econd-amendment-task-force-to-fight-the-left/
Personally, I would like Don Jr's Second Amendment Task Force to become a voluntary, agreed upon, focal point for coordination of the various other 2A organizations out there like JPFO, 2A Foundation, NRA and etc. There is something to be said for numbers.

 

[wiscoaster]

Interesting. A legitimate group or just a political stunt?

Probably a little of both. But regardless either way it's a good thing.

Even some Demos are jumping on the 2A bandwagon. Again, probably political stunts, but still .....

One example:

 

[Old Dog]

Well, it didn't take very long for this to devolve into a "Let's Bash the NRA Thread", did it?

Well, my intention was not to bash the NRA; as an organization, its leadership has brought it shame and discredit. I think it's hypocritical at this point to hold the NRA up as an exemplar in the RKBA movement. The NRA has a long and proud history, but we, the membership, need to demand some leadership changes and a general re-focusing of the organization's mission.

At any rate, if we can get a new RKBA organization that will actively work (not just lip service) to hold our politicians accountable, I'm all for it.

 

[GEM]

Don't need another organization correlated with one political viewpoint, esp. a set of characters that generate much animosity in many people, even in the classic progun world.

I see this as a reverse Harvey Weinstein. When Harvey was outed as pervert, he announced that he would dedicate his time to destroying the NRA. Not saying that baby Don is a pervert but the idea is that you divert from X to Y when Y is popular. Who needs this? Support the already successful organizations. Support the cure some obscure but horrible disease instead.

 

[dogtown tom]

Interesting. A legitimate group or just a political stunt?

Stunt.

I do know he is a 2nd Amendment advocate.

His daddy was President for four years...........what did Don Jr advocate for during that time? It wasn't enough.

I also know he pushed for the Hearing Protection Act for suppressors and that never happened while his dad was president.

Yep.

 

[dogtown tom]

.....Getting a suppressor is just a game of waiting 12 months....

Try 90 days.

 

[RetiredUSNChief]

Regardless of who the politician is, or what their campaign platform is, their currency in trade is ALWAYS power.

So none of them are to be trusted any further than you can throw them...and some less than that.

The trick is being able to show them that they LOSE power whenever they end up not being an active gun rights politician. That's hard to do...and is the reason why politicians are all over the place on this and constantly shift their views as a result.

It's also important to realize that regardless of any single politician's political stand, it's not his/her stand that matters...it's his/her party's stand. Politicians come and go all the time, but the Party out lives them all and is ALWAYS concerned with long term accumulation and exercise of power

 

[Zerodefect]

Try 90 days.

Nice. I've been waiting since October 2021. But I'm in absolutely no hurry.