Double action revolver for rimless cartridges like .40 and .45

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  1. zerobarrier
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    Hello all,

    I would like to get a new pistol and I do not have a double action revolver in my collection, all I have is two SA revolvers and a few semi-autos. So instead of getting a new caliber I was thinking of getting one that I already have and load for. I currently reload for 9mm, 40sw, 45acp, 44mag, 50ae, and .223. I really don't want to add another caliber to my reloading bench, but I will if I have to. Anyways I thought about one of the revolvers that use 40sw or 45acp. I know s&w and charter arms make them but I know nothing about them. Any advice, thoughts, or comments would be appreciated. The purpose would be to plink in my back yard and open carry it around the house and in the woods, although if I could conceal it I would.

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  2. highlander 5

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    I own both a S&W 625 and 610 and you couldn't ask for fun and accurate revolvers. Haven't heard good things on this board on Charter Arms revolvers.
     
  3. rcmodel

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    Only one word for you.
    S&W.

    Or is that three words?
    Or two words?
    Or no words at all?

    Now I'm more confused then usual!

    But the answer remains the same.


    rc
     
  4. greenmtnguy

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    Many manufacturers offer revolvers in those rimless/semi-auto pistol cartridge chamberings.Charter Arms, Taurus, S&W, and even Ruger has had a few, but not so many. I'd also consider the S&W revolvers as the cream of the crop in this category if your budget allows it.
     
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    Lol, that's funny.

    Highlander out of the two which do you prefer to shoot? I know I can get a 625 for somewhere around $900. But the 610's seem to be hard to find and when they do come available they are usually price very high $1500+.
     
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    The Taurus one's seem to be ok and much easier on the wallet, but I have never seen one or know anyone who has. I like the model 455. As for rugers I am a fan, I have a SBH in 44mag its a bisley and a 77/44, I love them both. Do they make a double action revolver, all I can find is single actions
     
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    Also there is the s&w 325, any thoughts on that one?
     
  8. rcmodel

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    Again, S&W.

    Buy once, Cry once.
    (You Cry once, only when you pay for it.)

    Instead of crying every time you go shooting with something else cheaper and not as good.

    Look at the revolvers that win the revolver championship matches over and over again every year.

    They all shoot S&W, and I don't care who they are, or who pays them.

    rc
     
  9. BYJO4

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    You can't beat the S&W model 25 or 625 (stainless version) when it comes to a 45 ACP revolver. They have an excellent history for accuracy and an excellent action. They make an outstanding range gun.
     
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    I will also jump on the S&W bandwagon and recommend one of the greatest N frames of all times, the 25-2. Yes, out of print and finding one locally can be a bit of a challenge, for a reason. Those that have them tend to keep them. The 25-2 was designed as a target revovler and it hit the mark. Mine has a 6.5" barrel but they are out there with 6" barrels and maybe a few with 4"barrels.
     
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    Anyone have a 610 S&W ? can you shoot .40 out of it ? thanks
     
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    Since the O.P. sez he doesn't know anything about
    DA/SA .45 ACP Revolvers

    The US Army used the big frame S&W and Colt revolvers
    in WWI both are called the M1917 S&W came up with the
    half moon ( holds 3 rds ) clips which give the extractor
    something to grip for extracting the spent cases.

    Mid-20s Remington-Peters created the rimmed .45 AUto Rim cartridge
    so users of the M1917s could have a cartridge which didn't
    require moon clips

    Post WWII - there as a 1950 Target and the 1950 Army
    a long barreled target model, and a fixed siggghts 4" bbl. model

    1955 - the 1950 Target got a bull no taper barrel
    and it was the 1955 Target which in '57 was
    named the Model 25.

    In the late '70s somebody created the full moon clip which holds 6 rds
    and this makes for a efficient/quick reload for a revolver.

    Mid-80s S&W created the Stainless Steel version of the 25 the 625

    The 325 has a Scandium alloy frame that lowers weight to about
    29 oz versus 42 oz for a 4" bbl. 625 easier to carry but
    more recoil.

    I just finished moon up 90 rounds for a range session
    tomorrow. oh, I've also shot .45 GAP in my 625.
    and have some .45 Auto Rim ammo some hot stuff.

    The S&W 610 uses full moon clips for 10mm Auto
    or .40 S&W.

    There's also the 22-4 a recent model that resemebles the
    1950 'Army'

    R-
     
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    I want to play along and answer your actual question, but I'd rather be the devil on your shoulder and tell you to get a DA .44 magnum. S&W (6)29, S&W 329, S&W 69, etc. There are also the Rugers, but right now they are only making them really big (7.5" barrel) or really small (2.5" barrel). You could find a used Redhawk with a 4" or 5.5" though.

    I just put 100 rds of .44 mag through my S&W 69 today. I love that thing.
     
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    Or, its brother in arms, the Colt New Service Model of 1917:
    ColtNewService1917Left.gif
     
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    You can shoot .40 out of the 610.
     
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    I shoot a lot of 40 S&W and like you reload also.
    I wanted a revolver in this caliber and bought a Charter Arms Pitbull with the 5" barrel. Granted it is not a S&W, Colt, or other creme of the crop revolver it does get the job done. I just plain could not afford the S&W or even find one in 40 caliber. I paid less than 400 bucks for this brand new.
    It shoots when I pull the trigger, SA is very nice.
    Only issue is that it does not like 200 grain bullets in the cylinder. The 40 headspaces on the cartridge rim and the 200 grainers seat a little deep.
    Your needs are like mine, a field gun you can carry and plink with.

    Rossi 713 6" .357 (surprisingly well built and solid)
    Charter Arms Pitbull 5" 40 S&W

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    Blindjustice thanks for the info, very informative
     
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    TPD211 I was interested in the pitbull , especially the one with the 2 1/4 inch barrel, but I can't seem to find one anywhere. I like the fact that you don't have to use moon clips with it
     
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    I gave up looking for the Charter Arms PITBILL in 9mm.

    It seems ridiculous how few they're making, but maybe during the run on firearms after Obama's re-election and Sandy Hook, they were selling as many 357 magnums and 38s as they could sell so it didn't make sense to spend time on the 9 & 40 PITBULLS (I don't know) Every LGD I have talked to has told me that they can't get the PITBULL and it would be a long long long wait.
     
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    As noted above the Smith 25-3 is the piece you want.
    M25-2andBFR017.jpg
     
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    BlindJustice,

    Not a correction but an interesting bit of trivia. When S&W developed the half moon clip for the Army, they also developed a full moon clip. A rather intricate affair with springs and such. The half moon was a simple stamped piece of metal and chosen for simplicity and the fact it could be used in the ammo carriers of the day.

    Not sure why the simple version of the moon clip escaped the brain of the designers back then, perhaps it was too simple for them!
     
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    I called Charter Arms direct and ordered over the phone. I had the Pitbull within 4 weeks.
     
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    I have owned and sold my 1911's. One day, years ago, at the range, I was invited to shoot a S&W 625. Fell in lust for one and purchased one at a gunshow in Jacksonville, FL. Love shooting it, never get tired of it and don't have to chase brass. Also shoot a Blackhawk convertible in 45 ACP. Using hardcast lead bullets and reloading makes the 35ACP inexpensive to shoot.
     
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    My understanding of the half moon clip is that it is a way of reloading without discarding a few rounds left in a full moon. In service, one does not always shoot a full clip at a time.
     
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