Drinking and CCW

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Do CCW holders go out and drink with their CCW on hand...and if you do is that lawful?? what are the laws with regard to drinking or being drunk with a pistol on you...etiquette or law? just wanna hear about it from the source of primary ccw permit holders.
 
Varies by state. Some have a prima facie BAC limit, others have definitions of "intoxication" which can be somewhat unclear. A few even have no specified restriction (but I would not want to be sued for an SD shooting with a BAC of .20 even there.)

In MN it's a .04 limit.

www.packing.org is a great source for state-specific laws.
 
Good Lord. I'll save everyone the time and trouble. I've been on the 12 Step Program for decades. It's exactly 12 Steps from where I park my scoot in my driveway to the fridge in my kitchen where I keep my beer.
I won't carry after imbibing 24 brews. It's a hard and fast rule of mine. I'm good at 23 brews, it just seems that 24 puts me over the edge.
Gotta be responsible and all...
Biker
 
are u being serious? 23 beers..if u r not kidding- u need some help my friend (all seriousness), my mothers friend just passed away after 20 years of alcohol abuse at the age of 60, he quit cold turkey 2 years prior but the damage to his pickled liver was already done, just another thought to consider-please continue to reply to my original post....
 
No, I don't need help. I know where the fridge is and I'm considering the possibility of entering my liver in the next Tough Man contest.
Biker:)
 
I haven't had an alcoholic drink in 17 yrs but if I was a drinker I would not carry if I planned on getting intoxicated. A couple drinks is one thing but if I was the type that drank to the point of being "drunk" I should not be armed in my opinion.
 
I refuse to CCW or have any loaded guns near by when drinking. Alcohol and guns don't mix.

Whenever we are going out or having friends over and alcohol is involved I secure all weapons in the safe.

Other opinions may vary but for me, I'll keep the booze and bullets seperated.
 
In Washington state, there's no blood-alcohol limit to carrying and as far as I know no law against carrying while drunk.

It is against the law to carry into the 21-or-over section of a place that serves alcohol, but no law against sitting and drinking in a restaurant that serves alcohol.

None of it really applies to me in any case -- I'm not fond of alchol and probably average maybe five alcoholic drinks in a year.

pax
 
Anyone can quit drinking, but it takes a real man to face alcohol poisoning.:cool:
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Biker is being funny. Also note that his fridge with the 24+ beers is in his house.

Alcohol and ammunition do not mix for many reasons.

The second most important reason is that your reaction times are slowed. Since you're carrying for self defense you wouldn't want to do anything that makes you slower/clumsier when your life is on the line.

The first most important reason is that your judgment is off. You may not draw in time because you didn't recognize a threat or you may draw too soon because you thought a threat was present that wasn't.
 
I have pretty simple rules about this.

First, I rarely drink at all. I haven't been to a bar in probably 3 or 4 years.

Usually if I have a beer, it is at home on the couch. If that is the case, I will leave my CCW on my hip.

If I have 2 beers, than my CCW goes in my office or bedroom. Doesn't matter if those beers are 4 hours apart.

If I go out, and end up at a restraunt, and decide to have a drink, my rule is one drink, consumed slowly throughout the meal. And that is rare that I even do that.

While I believe alcohol and firearms don't mix, I am also not really willing to give up my ability to defend me or my family, even if I have one drink.

I know at one drink I am still capable of driving a motor vehicle legally and responsibly, and that is more difficult and dangerous than a firearm.

My other hard and fast rule, if I have a drink, is that my firearm stays in my holster. That means, if I am at home, I won't use that oportunity to clean it, check it, or do any dry fire practice.

I.G.B.
 
I'm only on brew number 17. I've not yet begun to become *retarted*. ;)
Biker
 
I carry. And when I carry, I simply avoid drinking alcohol. First, it's my own personal rule. And that's enough for me. And second, in NC it would be a very bad thing for me to drink and carry. Here ya go:

It is unlawful for the permittee to carry a concealed handgun while consuming alcohol or at any time while the person has remaining in his body any alcohol or in his blood a controlled substance previously consumed. However, a permittee does not violate this law if a controlled substance in his blood was lawfully obtained and taken in therapeutically appropriate amounts.
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Forget loopholes, semantics, and nit-picking interpretations. I wouldn't want to be breathing the tell-tale effects of alcohol into the face of an LEO, especially if I had just shot someone.

Frandy
 
i'd say drinking and carrying are mutually exclusive. By carrying a firearm you take on the responsibility of your own safety, and in some instances the safety of the people surrounding you. To do so while imparing you judgement is counterproductive to your goal.

now im not saying if you have a beer at lunch or dinner your impaired, use your judgement. if you wouldnt drive, you shouldn't carry.
 
I only drink if I’m packing my machine gun for a Daily Show skit. That way I can cap off more than enough rounds to make up for my lousy accuracy when drunk. :D

~G. Fink

For the humor-impaired readers, I’m just joking.
 
Personaly, I think the states that have a BAC limit are a happy compromise. It should be pegged at whatever the limit for DUI is.

If I have a beer with dinner at a sit-down resturaunt with my family, and no plans to drink more, I don't see why my rights to self-defense should go out the window. Someone carrying illegaly can get as drunk as they want. It's like any other argument for CCW, "you don't need a permit to break the law".

If it was an "evening out" with friends where there'd be more than one drink, or a party, I would not carry.

WI's last failed CCW law initialy had a .08 BAC, which I felt fair, and was reduced to .02 as a bargaining chip to get some legislators on board. Not so fair, but better than "zero tolerance" in my book. We'll see what gets submitted in '07 on our next try.
 
I appreciate the humor of Biker, but all kidding aside, I don't drink,period. I also would not carry or drive, if I had been drinking. No objections to what anybody else may do, that is their personal choice. Having been married to an alchoholic for a god number of years, I just have no tolerance for the smell of it, let alone the taste. Just my .02. No offense intended towards anyone.
 
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