Dumb Gun-Fu Question

[orchidhunter]

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[David E]

Tom Cruise's draw in Collateral is not a clean one. Watch and you'll see he comes back too far on the grip and has to slide it up into the tang before drawing.

His double taps, of course, were lethargic. But it impressed people that don't practice such things.

 

[CWL]

First comes practice, then comes smoothness, last comes speed.

One of my trainers (former SWAT and firearms instructor at Gunsite, to SEALs, FBI and Border Patrol) can draw his 1911 from concealment and put 2-COM and one headshot into a target in 1.5 seconds. -I've seen this demonstrated several times now.

 

[gotime242]

 

[MikePGS]

Sorry about the length.

No need to apologize at all, very interesting. Also, welcome to THR.

 

[Bakeneko]

"Gun kata" might have been made up for a movie, and the scene with the Cruise might be fiction, but tell me this guy hasn't been working at an "art" just as devoted as any kenjutsu practicioner.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Og9ccsb1v6o&feature=related

And, thanks for the welcome.

 

[nate18]

about the whole tom cruise thing in collateral I heard that he actually practiced that move and the others in that movie thousands of times untill he had it down pat and i believe that it is true that you can have one fluid mosion like that but like the rest of the guys said do it safely and practice practice practice

 

[Frank Ettin]

I understand that the guy that trained Tom Cruise for the movie used to be SAS. In a CQC class I took from Louis Awerbuck, we did a drill very much like the "shoot from the hip" scene.

 

[Ben86]

There are universal principles to drawing a weapon and putting it to use in one motion. Economy of motion, fluidity and a certain natural "effortlessness" are things that even the samurai strived to achieve in drawing their swords, see Iaijutsu.

 

[9mmepiphany]

interesting sidebar:

when two Iaido practitioners, of equal skill, match up against each other...they both die

BTW: the complete motion is the Draw, the Cut and the Re-sheath...it is one continuous motion

 

[grnzbra]

If you step through that scene frame by frame, you will find that the only reason Cruise's character survived is because he was going up against a street punk. After getting out of the line of fire, Cruise released the guy's had while he went for his gun. The punk had his gun back on Cruise while Cruise was still trying to get the gun out of the holster. The only thing that saved Cruise was he was inside the punk's OODA. Of course, if the punk had been a trained and experienced killer, as Cruise was supposed to be, he would have known how sticking the gun in Cruise's face was just begging to have the gun taken away. Now, that would have been impressive - Cruise takes the punk's gun and, while holding the punk in a wrist lock, kills the punk's partner (with the punk's gun) and then the punk.

 

[captlid]

I am reminded of the movie, ghost dog: way of the samurai. Long story short, the main character, a hitman can be seen drawing his pistol in a form of iaijitsu.

 

[Fred Fuller]

From practical, to tactical, to Hollywood, to off in the ditch... to closed.

lpl