easy scopes to use?

[silver2525]

Is there a scope that does not need a 1/8 or 1/4 inch adjustments. i am lazy and would just like the use the range finder and a few clicks to the distance and go.

knob settings like 100,200,300, ect..

last caveat.......... under $200


is this even possible? any ideas?

 

[snakeman]

Not that I know of. Could try something with a reticle that compensates for holdover.

 

[TonyAngel]

I really don't understand this. What good is a range finder going to do you if you can't dial in the proper amount of adjustment?

To get what you want, you'd need a scope built for a particular rifle, in a particular caliber shooting a particular load in a specific environment. For what that scope would cost, you might be better off hiring someone to follow you out to the range or field to dial your scope for you.

 

[jmr40]

Vortex and Burris offer scopes with long range dots selling right at $200. Zero at 100 yards and use the dots for 200, 300, 400, etc.

 

[Art Eatman]

IIRC the name correctly, the Leatherwood scopes had a cam built in that was calibrated for a specific cartridge/bullet setup. Dial in the range, hit the target. I watched a guy do well at a known 1,000 yards with his .308, using one.

 

[silver2525]

I was looking for a scope i can adjust from 100 to 700 yards with little mental math. example .... 1 click per every 100 yards or even better 2 clicks per 100 yards. the thought of being in the field zeroed at 200 yards then thinking additional 500 yards 1/4 click would be????? drop the zero divide by square root of???.....calculate the distance to the sun????

just alot of thinking for me before my morning coffee while hunting. like i said im lazy.

Bdc scope might work for me..... are they caliber specific? or is that being to lazy... Dont answer....

 

[TurtlePhish]

I was looking for a scope i can adjust from 100 to 700 yards with little mental math. example .... 1 click per every 100 yards or even better 2 clicks per 100 yards. the thought of being in the field zeroed at 200 yards then thinking additional 500 yards 1/4 click would be?????

For a scope to work like that, it would have to be custom made according to the rifle, load, environmental conditions, relative humidity.... you get the idea. Not to mention each click would be a different amount of adjustment than any other click. It'd sort of be a logarithmic scope. Although it would be a pretty complex log function...

 

[wally]

There are quite a few out there with elevation cams "calibrated" 1 2 3 4 5 for 100 yard increments. The old AR15 carry handle mount scope and the Russian WWII "sniper" scope on the Mosin, also I think the scope for the German G3 is another.

If you match your load to the velocity & sectional density they were calibrated for they should do what you want.

 

[WNTFW]

Silver,
Spend some time looking at the trajectory of rifle bullets. Specifically the drop in inches Between the 100 yd increments. Look at the drop from 600 to 700 and from 100 to 200.
Play with this too
http://www.shooterready.com/lrsdemo.html

The easiest part of the whole thing is twisting the knobs.

You still haven't even gotten into windage. Here is a hint: elevation is easier than windage. Elevation should hold consistently.

 

[Demos]

I'm pretty sure he is asking for something like this Nikon scope but cheaper. I'm pretty sure Leupold will make you the same kind of turrets if you send them your load info, but both are a good bit over you $200 limit.

 

[silver2525]

I have a lot to think about. i wish i was not so LAZY.. HE HE HE....

 

[WNTFW]

Silver,
Rifle shooting is work. You have to put forth effort to get results. You can spend money to shorten some paths. So yeah, time, effort and money all factor in. It is also cheaper and less work than some other things I have done. So it is pretty rewarding for the effort put forth.
Finding some mentors will also help you get better results sooner. Time can be a big expense.

I think you will find a normal scope & a drop chart will suffice. Range is the key. Next you factor wind into your chart. Once you start developing the skills needed going to another rifle is no big deal. Having the skill is transferable. Having a gadget is not.

 

[jmorris]

I have one of the leatherwood "camputer" scopes I used once, didn't like it. It's yours for $200.

If I were you I would save up some money and get a Shepard. I have one on a 308 and it's hands free and works much better.

 

[Driftertank]

I've gotten used to holdover for long range shots. Works like this:

Get a fixed-mag 4x or 6x mildot scope. They can be found easily for that price range.
Zero it at 100 or 200 yards. Set up targets at various known ranges out to the maximum you intend to shoot at, 100yd intervals. Have a 3x5" card with a sketch of your reticle handy. Start shooting. As you work your way out to max range, mark your card with where you have to hold the target on the reticle to score a hit at that range. When you have holdovers plotted, take and laminate that card.

No dials, no cams. It's old-fashioned and gets you no "tech" points, but by golly it works.

(YMMV)

 

[scythefwd]

drifter.. it's called Kentucky windage. It'll never be as accurate as actually adjusting a scope.

 

[madcratebuilder]

It's called BDC and well work with one specific load. You still have to adjust for wind. Leatherwood and the old Colt 3&4X handle mount AR scopes have it.

Here's a Hakko AR scope, they made the Colt handle mount scopes.


Colt handle mount.


Both these are marked in yardage and are very close with xm193 from a 20" barrel only.

 

[Gtimothy]

My 3 x 9, 40mm Leupold Mark AR does that for 55gr .223 REM rounds. Sight it in for 100 yds and use the built in bullet drop compensator dial to set the scope up for farther distances. I haven't used it past 100 yds yet so don't know if it lives up to it's claim. $300.00

 

[Hunterdad]

So, you want a scope that does everything but pull the trigger for you for $200? If you find this magical scope, please let us know what it is.

 

[Coltdriver]

Get a used mil dot and you have a ranging and holdover reticle all in one. The ultimate lazy mans scope!!

 

[JPG19]

I guess I don't understand your reasoning here...if no work goes into your shot, where does the satisfaction come from? That being said, there are tools out there to help ease the burden (or in my case, compensate for a lack of technical knowledge). Enter the Nikon M-223. I purchased one for my AR w/ the BDC reticle. Nikon has software that will allow you the enter any round from any gun and will compute the ranges indicated on the reticle for you. Check it out.

 

[mr.trooper]

I do believe there are expensive aftermarket turrets for Leupold scopes that will allow for multiples zeroes to be set on one scope.

 

[DRYHUMOR]

Buy this, pull the scope off, and sell the rifle.

The scope is calibrated in meters for a 168 gr 308 round. Nice scope, I have one.

You will have to do the drop math to covert it to what you want to shoot.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=288540503

 

[10thMtn]

The Nikon M-223 does exactly what you're looking to do. I put one on my Barnes Precision AR15. Once I had my zero at 100 yards, I can go any distance, turn the knob, and it adjusts my crosshairs for me. It's a beautiful thing and is accurate. I've yet to find a bug in the system between 100-600 yards. Nikon even has a ballistics app you can download onto your Droid that is an awesome tool! If you're not shooting .223/5.56, then I believe they make it in other calibers, but I'm not 100% sure. Check it out.

 

[txgunsuscg]

I've gotten used to holdover for long range shots. Works like this:

Get a fixed-mag 4x or 6x mildot scope. They can be found easily for that price range.
Zero it at 100 or 200 yards. Set up targets at various known ranges out to the maximum you intend to shoot at, 100yd intervals. Have a 3x5" card with a sketch of your reticle handy. Start shooting. As you work your way out to max range, mark your card with where you have to hold the target on the reticle to score a hit at that range. When you have holdovers plotted, take and laminate that card.

No dials, no cams. It's old-fashioned and gets you no "tech" points, but by golly it works.

(YMMV)

This gets you on target fast, i.e. if you expect targets moving quickly at multiple distances where you wouldn't be able to dial.

Scythe, technically, it's Kentucky elevation

And as WNTFW said, developing dope for your rifle is hard work, and can be very tedious. It all depends on what your end goal is whether you want to put the time into it. To date, there is no magic button to make your scope adjust. Even a BDC can be wrong depending on the actual weather conditions on that day, and what round you are using (i.e., 55 gr, 62 gr, 75 gr and so on for the 5.56) versus what round they used to collect the data they used for the BDC. A good dope book can shorten the time, but not until you have data in it to work with. Some of the iPhone apps are good to, but you still have to put in weather data, and they are based on averages (how the round should perform) and every rifle and round is a tid bit different, even with match ammo.