Effects of a suppressor on accuracy

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I believe Hatcher remarked in a conversation with a designer (I believe it was Cutts of Cutts compensator fame), that the recoil suppressor hanging off the end of the barrel increased accuracy because (as noted above) the extra weight stabilizes the barrel and reduces whip. The same would be true of sound suppressors.

You've got to remember that with the enormous pressures involved (10-50 Kpsi), the steel of the barrel is not exactly like butter, but does deform and swell and stretch quite a bit. (Which is why one can use strain gauges on the barrel to measure these pressures --the strain gages measure the barrel deformation, which is then related to the pressures involved.) These pressures are still around 5Kpsi to 10Kpsi on bullet exit.

These stresses and strains make the barrel ring like a tuning fork, even before bullet exit. The trick is to make it "ring" the same way for each shot --which is why many Bench Rest shooters use free floating or clamped barrels and or actions. Most glass bedded sporting rifles which are fully glass bedded have almost the same effect --that is, the full glass bedding dampens the barrel vibrations. (Another effect is to eliminate variabilities of humidity swelling the wood and changing the forces on the barrel--which is not a concern with plastic-stocked rifles.)

The desiired effect is to have the bullet exit at the same point in the barrel's oscillations for each shot and extra weight definitely helps in this respect.

The extra weight also slows down and reduces the "drift" of the barrel when sighting, much like with a heavy barreled target arm. This effect may be as important as anything else with respect to an increase in accuracy. (Although there are enough variables involved that an "increase" may not always be observed --hence the debate.)

Also, as Hatcher remarked elsewhere, the most critical area of the bullet in terms of accuracy was the base of the bullet, which, as also noted above, is still being affected by the blast of gases behind it for at least a couple of inches after muzzle exit. The effect of these gases on any deformities on the base of the bullet would be reduced by the fact that their pressure is less after being "stifled" by the suppressor or partially vented by recoil compensators or porting.

(This is one reason that BTHP bullets are usually considered the most accurate for target shooting. By virtue of the method of manufacture and the shape of the base of the bullet, these effects are lessened. It is also the reason why somewhat reduced loads {with the attendant lower exit pressure} are almost always found to be more accurate.)

(My Hatcher's Notebook is elsewhere right now, so I can't provide page references -- sorry.)
 
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(This is one reason that BTHP bullets are usually considered the most accurate for target shooting. By virtue of the method of manufacture and the shape of the base of the bullet, these effects are lessened. It is also the reason why somewhat reduced loads {with the attendant lower exit pressure} are almost always found to be more accurate.)
Don't Benchrest competition shooters normally use flat base bullets?
 
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It doesn't seem like the flow behind the bullet would remain supersonic for long, since it more or less free to expand once the bullet is outside the barrel. It'd be nice to see a visual from a CFD experiment to show exactly what is happening.
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Zak:

Note the word "usually" in my remarks.

There are lots of other variables, like the twist of the rifling. If the rifling is slower than the usual military twists, a shorter bullet (i.e., a flat-based bullet) will probably shoot better. Longer bullets, such as boat-tails, are more suited to military twists, which seem to be around 10" or so, I believe.

Note the word "probably."

My varmint rifle in .223 Remington has a 14" twist, which is much slower than the usual twist for that cartridge in a military rifle. It shot the 55gr military loads pretty well, but the best accuracy was with a 52gr flat-based bullet. (Speer or Hornady, I forget which, and my son has my loading notes.) I believe it was the fact that the flat base made the bullet shorter and therefore better suited to that slow a twist which accounted (partly) for that bullet shooting better.

I can predict with fair confidence that it will not shoot the newer 5.56 NATO* rounds with bullets heavier than 55gr worth a toot, although I never tried these.

However, I learned a long time ago with all kinds of shooting that it never pays to positively assert what will happen with any particular combination of components. For all I know, that rifle will shoot a wooden dowel accurately --but that's another thing I never tried. :)

I also never tried that rifle with the newer .45gr bullets, either. They were not readily available in the days when I went afield to skim off the top portions of the prairie rat population hereabouts. (I don't hardly get out to shoot anyplace but the indoor ranges anymore and haven't shot that rifle for more than about eight years.)

Like the man said, "Every rifle is a law unto itself."

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* I am aware of the slight dimensional differences between .223 Remington and the newer 5.56 NATO rounds. Let's not get started on that one, eh?
 
The purpose of the BT in the BTHP is for an increased BC value to aid medium and long-range accuracy. HP construction helps to allow the jacket to be uniform at the base, which aids the accuracy concerns in this thread.

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Zak:
The purpose of the BT in the BTHP is for an increased BC value to aid medium and long-range accuracy. HP construction helps to allow the jacket to be uniform at the base, which aids the accuracy concerns in this thread.

All true. Thank you.

Back to the subject of stuff hanging off the barrel, though, I have a sneaking hunch that the Yugo SKS 59/66, with its grenade laucher, sights, and bayonet, is capable of much finer accuracy than is usually spoken about in the usual SKS. Were it not for BATFE regs, I'd love to glass it, put in a stout screw to hold the receiver to the trigger guard and lock down the bayonet and grenade launcher sight.

I got 1/2" (Vertical) by 2" (horizontal) groups at 25 yards (max indoor range) out of the stock 59/66 --the horizontal stringing due to a poor rest. This, with Wolf ammo.

However, I also shut off the gas valve and single-loaded it. I suspect that stopping all that machinery from schlonking around, as well as the extra stuff on the barrel, helped.

'Nuff rambling for this old coot. Me go now.
 
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