Electing Pro 2A Politicians

[jerkyman45]

President George Bush won in 2004 with 62 million votes, if there are 80 million gun owners, and if 3/4 of them are registered to vote, that is 60 million voters, or of course as many as 80 million. With numbers like that, presidential elections are won. Is there some way we could organize and ensure that pro 2A politicians and laws are passed? Or is this just a naive little hope? The midterm elections here have gotten me to thinking about this, especially with the anti 2A Democrats running strong in many races.

 

[Third_Rail]

Republicans aren't friendly to our other rights, and there are more rights than just the right to bear arms. Before anyone says it, I realize that it's the most important right.


However, many people would rather vote third party or not vote at all rather than support a party that takes away all rights other than the 2nd Amendment.

 

[Glockfan.45]

I tend to vote Republican for lack of a better choice. Sadly I feel like they use us gun owners as useful idiots. When will we ever get a real pro-constitution third party canidate?

 

[ArmedBear]

Here's the thing.

The 1st, 4th and 5th Amendments are worth little more than the paper they're written on. SCOTUS decides that black is white, and it becomes so. Ask Suzette Kelo.

The Bill of Rights does not protect us. Guns do.

The 2nd Amendment is the only part of the Bill of Rights that really gives US control over anything, in reality.

Whenever someone says that there are other rights that matter, I think that all of those rights can be done away with in 20 seconds, with a decree from a totalitarian government, and there's NOTHING we can do. The Bill of Rights won't jump out of the Library of Congress to save us.

Only our guns can't simply be eliminated instantly by anyone with the power.

Think it can't happen? That's what my grandparents probably thought, in 1937, in Austria. Capiche?

 

[GoRon]

However, many people would rather vote third party or not vote at all rather than support a party that takes away all rights other than the 2nd Amendment.

This is the latest BIG LIE, that Republicans are bad on all the other rights in the BOR.

The judges that Republicans appoint are going to be more prone to follow original intent than the clowns that the Democrats want on the court.

I have no issue with those watching and safeguarding our rights. My problem is that their proscription for dealing with questionable Republican laws is to advocate putting Democrats in office!! Either proactively voting Democrat, or passively voting third party.

 

[ArmedBear]

The judges that Republicans appoint are going to be more prone to follow original intent than the clowns that the Democrats want on the court.

Hopefully so. I think probably so.

While everyone else is worried that their phone conversation with Osama might get recorded, I know that what's on MY mind is the list of judges who are getting VERY old. A few are due to retire.

Do you want more judges who think the Right of the People means the Right of the States, but only in the one instance where they feel like they want it to, based on nothing but their whim? Then vote Democrat.

 

[Gordon Fink]

George W. Bush is not, in fact, pro-gun. He is merely less anti-gun than many prominent Democrats.

~G. Fink

 

[Standing Wolf]

The Bill of Rights does not protect us. Guns do.

I'm sorry to say, ArmedBear, you're right.

 

[jerkyman45]

I'm not talking about just Republicans and Democrats, I was merely pointing out the strong Democratic showing today because they are the more anti-gun of the big two parties. What I was suggesting, somewhat vaguely I now realize, is with such a huge voting block that we as gun owners represent, we could put a third party candidate into the White House.

 

[Robert Hairless]

I'm not talking about just Republicans and Democrats, I was merely pointing out the strong Democratic showing today because they are the more anti-gun of the big two parties. What I was suggesting, somewhat vaguely I now realize, is with such a huge voting block that we as gun owners represent, we could put a third party candidate into the White House.

Gun owners are fiercely independent people, each of whom knows the absolute truth about absolutely everything, and know that everyone else is absolutely wrong. I guarantee it.

 

[ArmedBear]

George W. Bush is not, in fact, pro-gun. He is merely less anti-gun than many prominent Democrats.

This is true.

What is also true is that he is far less anti-gun than Al Gore or John Kerry, both of whom see Europe or even England as models for gun ownership restrictions.

He was running against those two. That was the choice.

Or did anyone REALLY think their vote for Badnarik was any more meaningful than my write-in votes for orangutans at the San Diego Zoo were this year?

Now, I'd like to see a President who actually stands up for the 2nd Amendment as written. We have two years to help get some candidates through the primaries.

Or we could just do bong hits with other Libertarians and bitch.