Embarassing concealed-carry story.

[Seanwins]

I carried a 92F concealed in civvies when I was stationed in Uzbekistan in 2002. Before shipping out I discovered that I would be issued a 92F and I would be carrying it concealed. Having never carried concealed before I decided on a shoulder holster. When considering my concealed carry rig I didn't give much thought to functionality, only that it would look "bitchin." So lo and behold, I get to Uzbekistan and it is hotter than two rats doing the nasty in a wool sock and there is no way I am wearing two shirts or a jacket to carry this thing.

As you can imagine the whole Miami Vice look was immediately thrown right out the damn window and I took to carrying it with no holster tucked in the small of my back when I felt like I needed it. So one day we were doing our thing (secret stuff) and getting a tour of a local government facility when I feel the 92F start to slide out of my waistband and into the seat of my pants. Without thinking I grab my butt with both hands which, one, made everyone look at me and ,two, it made the gun slide right down the leg of my cargo pants and come to rest muzzle first against the marble floor with a solid and very audible thunk. (Needless to say I wasn't feeling very James Bond at the moment.)

So everyone is looking at me expectantly and at my leg which made the strange metal thunk sound a second ago, and very possibly at the barrel of my gun, which is sticking out of my pants. I stare back, pointedly ignoring whatever had just happened and the Uzbeks being an incredibly hospitable people, decided to let me think I'd gotten away with it, and the tour lurched back into motion.

As they all turn their backs to continue, I make like I am tying my shoe and stuff the pistol inside my boot. Into a boot, I might add, which wasn't fashioned to accommodate a full frame pistol and my size 14 foot. It was quite painful but I tried to keep up appearances, limping along behind with my eyes watering from the pain of having the skin torn from my ankle with every step.

Before long I asked where the nearest restroom was and one of the employees showed me directly to the nearest available facility, which was 2 floors up and a good healthy walk from where we started. Once in the bathroom I pulled the pistol from my boot and tucked it back into my waistband, and this time with my thumbs hooked into my belt to keep tension on the gun, I completed the tour without further incident.

So anyways that was my first concealed carry experience. Necessity being the mother of invention, I quickly discovered that in a pinch you can easily conceal a large pistol in one of those zip-up daily planner things. Who would think you have a full frame handgun in a daily planner? Apparently, not too many people.

Now that I have decided to carry full-time in the civilian world I have invested in the Crossbreed Super-Tuck Deluxe in order to avoid any further embarrassing incidents.

 

[mljdeckard]

Interestingly enough, I see lots of officers carrying openly in miami-classic style rigs. I use one as a civilian, and while in Utah, I am not required to keep it concealed, I don't recall ever having had a problem with it. I just have to be aware when the wind is blowing, and make sure it doesn't pop open my shirt.

I am in a position where I might have to carry a 92 in civilian clothes in a hostile Asian nation. I'm thinking fanny pack.

 

[Seanwins]

I would do a lot of things different if I was sent back. I went to DLI for Russian. What was your language?

 

[ClickClickD'oh]

Well, now.. Embarrassing being made CC stories.

The wife and I were over at a friends house having enjoyed a nice dinner he and his wife cooked up. After dinner niceness having wrapped up, I was kneeling by the front door re-lacing my boots, when I felt something... "shift". One solid thunk sound later, and there was my Glock 23 sitting on his hard wood floor. At the time I had been wearing it in a shoulder rig that well, wasn't exactly of the quality you might buy form Galco. I think I may have later burned the thing in effigy since it wasn't even up to the standard of a flogging strap.. but I digress. Well, I couldn't just let my Glock sit there on his floor, so I scooped it back up and crammed it back into its' reluctant so called "holster". No sooner did I hear the little pop of the thumb snap engaging and pull my hand away, when there was a second little pop and out came the Glock again. This time, my almost cat like reflexes caught it. Well, I caught it mainly because my snail like speed (still hooked to cat like reflexes) had only managed to get my hand a few inches from the errant firearms retention device. Well, not to be fooled again by my clearly substandard dead cow (if it ever was a cow) I stood up holding the uppity Glock in place before snapping the thumb strap again to make sure there was no weight on it. Well my friend, with one eyebrow raised in a very Spock like fashion, couldn't let this go. No, no. You see, he's a Kimber guy.

"A Glock?" He says. A touch of disdain in his voice for the tupperware that has soiled his hardwoods. "What on earth are you doing with a Glock?"

The only thing I could offer in my defence... "Policy change," I muttered. "Not my choice."

In the years since that night of shame, every New Years party comes the tale of the holster that couldn't live up to it's name.

PS: He now carries a Glock 21.

 

[doberman]

Don't beat me up for this please, but as a "civie" that carries daily(and a 92FS owner as well), I can see no better reason than the obvious to rid of our servicemen of the 92F/M9. Too big and too heavy for the 9mm round.

I'll guess, and only guess, that you would have prefered a Commander sized .45ACP in the waistband. Maybe even a G19 if you had to go 9mm?

But *** do I know?

Flame away.

 

[mljdeckard]

I won't beat you at all. Even a full-size 1911 rides in the waistband easier than a M-9.

 

[SteyrAUG]

For a brief time I carried a MP5K-PDW in a shoulder rig under a jacket during those two months of fall we Floridians have the nerve to call winter.

Well sometimes I forget other people don't expect everyone to have a gun so as we are ordering pizzas and cokes at the local pizza spot I begin to remove my jacket so I can be a bit more comfortable.

I got it off down to about my elbows when I remembered "Hey dumbass, wake up, you have a SMG under your arm...put your jacket back on."

Of course the look on the waitresses face was priceless.

For the rest of the night we had to listen to other tables speculate as to who the "dignitary" was at our table who had a security detail. Fortunately our friends at the table are completely used to this sort of thing and just kept laughing.

 

[P97]

I learned the hard way to not carry a IWB clip on holster. I was setting in a crowded Restaurant and got up and the clip had worked up and the holster and gun both went bouncing across the floor. Needless to say, I now carry with a holster that has belt loops.

 

[geekWithA.45]

Dude.

And anyone else ever in need of a field expedient concealment holster, so as not to meet the same fate:


Obtain a piece of string or shoelace about 12" long.
Knot it together to form a loop.

Lock loop it through your belt, tuck the remaining 6" loop around your sidearm, and down your pants.

This will minimally secure your sidearm from lateral and downwards movement.

'Taint great, but it works, and you can ditch it in a flash.

Oh, and avoid small of back carry:

A) You sweep your own kidneys on the drawstroke, and
B) It's a great way to upgrade a simple bruise from a fall to a full blown spinal injury.

 

[Hutch]

For a brief time I carried a MP5K-PDW in a shoulder rig under a jacket during those two months of fall we Floridians have the nerve to call winter.

Uhhhh.... S/A - do you mind me asking why you chose an SMG for a CCW? BTW, I don't like Florida for any number of good reasons, among which is the weather. Not to bash Floridians, y' understand.

The one time I got made was at my daughter's softball game. My "safari" vest had some overly generous arm-holes, one of which apparently revealed the butt of my S&W M65 in a high-ride. One of the spectators asked me if I was a cop. He seemed not to have any issues, just curious.

 

[SSN Vet]

As for dropping my piece.....fortunately, I have no story to share....yet.

but I bet your duty assignment was very interesting.....

I had never heard of Navy jobs that involved concealed carry untill I got to be friends with a guy working at our boats support facility who had gone to DLI for Greek. 17N was alive and active back then and he had been stationed in Greece in a "security" related position.

These were back in the days before direct deposit was required and I guess those Navy payroll events at the Greek banks entailed more risk than your garden variety pay days.

I couldn't for the life of me figure out how a Nuclear Machinist Mate managed to get sent to DLI.......but it turns out that he had learned Greek in aduldt Sunday school classes (go figure!). The fact that he spoke Basque in his home growing up probably had something to do with it too.

Just goes to show, you never know what's going on out there.

edited to add:
17N = 17 November, which is the Greek marxist/terrorist org. that targeted/Assasinated U.S., Nato and Greek Government personal and robbed banks to underwrite their ventures.

 

[SteyrAUG]

Hutch


Uhhhh.... S/A - do you mind me asking why you chose an SMG for a CCW? BTW, I don't like Florida for any number of good reasons, among which is the weather. Not to bash Floridians, y' understand.

I have a "volume of fire" doctrine of personal defense.



These days I usually carry a SIG or P7.

Shoulder rig SMGs seem like a good idea until you've had one under your arm all day long.

 

[KBintheSLC]

Funny story... I'm glad it didn't slip down at a time when you needed it. I guess an IWB holster would have come in handy.

 

[PPGMD]

For a brief time I carried a MP5K-PDW in a shoulder rig under a jacket during those two months of fall we Floridians have the nerve to call winter.

I hope it was SA because the concealed carry laws in Florida specifically doesn't allow MGs IIRC. No mention of SBRs though.

 

[cordex]

My brother has a funny story that recently happened to him.

He was in a one-hole bathroom at a restaurant and had forgotten to lock the door. As he removed his pistol from his holster, someone walked in on him seeing a young man with his pants undone and a 1911 in his hand. They raised their hands and backed out of the room.

 

[MT GUNNY]

cordex

"Indecent Brandishing"

 

[entropy]

Dude.

And anyone else ever in need of a field expedient concealment holster, so as not to meet the same fate:


Obtain a piece of string or shoelace about 12" long.
Knot it together to form a loop.

Lock loop it through your belt, tuck the remaining 6" loop around your sidearm, and down your pants.

This will minimally secure your sidearm from lateral and downwards movement.

'Taint great, but it works, and you can ditch it in a flash.

Looks like this:


















I make them out of 550 paracord because that's what was available-I learned this from an SF CPT. As a unit Armorer, I sometimes had to carry a couple pistols on me, (coming back from the range, on FTX's when the O's decided they didn't want to carry them anymore.....) and they came in handy.

 

[Mr Kablammo]

Yup, I have given up on trying to CCW the 92FS as IBW. Tried it a couple of times and people were looking at me like I was an "Italian Stallion" caught up in a severe bout of Priapism combined with Pyronhie's Disease.

The P220 is lighter, flatter, and bit more comfortable.

Still planning to try the 92FS at tommorrow's IPSC match.

 

[apollosmith]

I was kneeling at a coworkers desk (THAT sounds kinda weird, but it's hard to explain) and we were reviewing some documents. I look over and another coworker is STARING RIGHT AT MY GUN. I casually feel down and my shirt had pulled entirely over the handle of the XD 9mm SubCompact on my hip. I was made. The guy that saw the gun seemed a bit nervous and fidgety. I nonchalantly pulled my shirt back over it and continued the discussion, then left because I didn't want everyone else in the office to know.

After thinking about it for a while, I decided to talk to him about it. I had done nothing wrong, but he is recently from India. I just didn't want him to be uncomfortable around me and to be made aware that carrying a gun is legal and not an uncommon thing here (especially in Utah). More than that, I didn't want him telling or asking others about it.

So I invite him to my office. The conversation went like this:
Me: So, did you see my gun today?
Him: Huh?
Me: I noticed that you saw that I carry a gun.
Him: You carry a gun?
Me. CRAP!

I went on to explain that I do indeed carry a gun and that it's perfectly legal and that because it is intended to be concealed, that I'd appreciate if he didn't tell anyone else about it. He was totally cool with all of it and thought it was pretty cool. He said he did see it, but thought it was a cell phone or PDA. I felt like an idiot for even bringing it up.

Lesson learned: Even if you think you've been made, it does little good to say anything about it (unless, of course they are dialing 911 or running down the halls screaming about a gunman).

 

[2Lman]

Naw... Apollo... not hard to explain at all.

After all, it worked in the Oval Office for eight years.

 

[Bob F.]

Oh,jeez! Gotta fess up!

Yrs ago .25 auto (because that's what I had) clanked to the deck at a Dairy Queen; "Damn" picked it up and stuck it in a pocket, instead of the unreliable IWB Mexican style w/o Geek's string.

Another time, cheap shoulder holster/compact 1911 .45, Christmas at the mall; "pop" "clank" "crap" Picked it up and stuffed it under my arm and went to the men's room. Stuffed it in my waistband.

Not sure if anybody actually made me either time. Keep in mind, I'm in WV, a free state, pretty gun friendly!

Stay safe, and concealed.
Bob

 

[351 WINCHESTER]

Went with my wife grocery shopping. She was in a hurry so I didn't have time to secure my revolver in a holster. I just stuck it in my waist. I feel it slipping and told my wife to stop. I managed to shake my right leg and the gun ended up in my cowboy boot. It was a painful night indeed, but, I pulled it off. Never again. Always have a good holster.

 

[ConstitutionCowboy]

"Beware the man who wears a belt and suspenders"

Why? Am I doing something wrong?

Woody

 

[Zundfolge]

I don't have any real embarassing stories, but I have a couple funny ones.


A few months back a friend of mine, his wife and their 3 year old daughter came to spend the weekend with us.

We took them to our favorite little mom & pop pizza place up in Manitou and when I went up to the counter to pay, the 3 year old and her father joined me.

Seated on a bench directly behind us was a typical Manitou resident waiting on his to go order (probably had a serious case of the munchies ... thankfully he didn't smell of patchuli).

Anyway, little miss 3 year old grabbed my right hand and my friend's left hand and said "UP!" so of course we both lifted her straight up a couple times. I finished paying and as I turned around the hippie waiting for his pizza was staring at me with eyes as big as saucers and he was as white as a sheet.

Didn't occur to me why until I got back to the table ... he skittered on out soon afterward with his pizza staring at me the whole way out.

I'm still not sure if he was afraid of the gun or thought I was a cop

(lifting her straight up caused my shirt to lift up exposing my side arm completely several times).



Another funny one happened while waiting in line at McDonald's.

It was a pretty busy day at McDonalds, maybe 15 people in the line area.

There was this asian guy with his two kids. A boy of about 5 and a girl of about 6 and they were playing tag, running around everyone in the crowd and basically being annoying little pests.

The boy wasn't watching where he was going and ran into my right side. There was a very audible "Thwack" sound. CLEARLY not the sound of a child's head hitting my spare tire. This kid hit the butt of my gun pretty hard.

He stopped and looked up at me rubbing his head with that look on his face like he'd cry but he was just too confused at the moment to muster a tear.

Dad came toward me to retrieve him, so there was this moment of tension, but he quickly apologized and dragged his little crumb muncher over to the line he was in and that was that.

Kid kept rubbing the spot on his forehead and staring at me with a confused look (I guarantee he had a bruise).

 

[AlaskaErik]

Luckily for me, my embarrassing story happened at home while no one else was around. I was discarding large amounts of paperwork and other accumulated "stuff" into large garbage bags. After having filled three bags I noticed my HK USP Compact 40 was no longer in its pouch in my leather CCW vest. I double checked the safe, but it was empty. After pulling my heart back up I gingerly went through the garbage bags. Lo and behold, I found in in one of them. I think I got away from vests right after that.