Embarrassing for Gun Rights - Why it's important what you post on Social Media

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Whether we like it or not, social media pushes change. If you have the president of a college you don't like, start a media campaign and they may resign or be fired; don't like a certain company's practices, start a media campaign and watch them make a change; don't agree with someone, start a social media campaign and watched them be punished.


We have to be careful what we post on social media, it can make us look like fools. We have to look at the big picture and how it may look if things go sideways. This is a prime example.


I hate it when parents say stupid things like, "Mikey's only 1 month old and he's already a Packers and Yankees fan like his daddy."

What the heck are you talking about, he's 1 month old, he isn't a fan of anything yet. It just sounds ignorant. Don't place your passions untruthfully on your children.



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This entire situation makes gun advocates look dumb and it gives the anti-gunners ammo for their argument that anti-gunners always say that guns are more likely to hurt you or someone in your household then be used for self-defense.




http://www.inquisitr.com/2872109/ja...by-4-year-old-son-brutalized-on-social-media/




Jamie Gilt, Facebook Gun Rights Activist, Shot By 4-Year-Old Son, Brutalized On Social Media

The Inquisitr - ‎20 hours ago‎

Facebook gun rights activist Jamie Gilt, 31, was shot by her 4-year-old from the backseat of her pickup truck on Tuesday. Jamie had established a small following on social media as a voice for “gun sense” laws that seek to protect the 2nd Amendment. Gilt had created a Facebook page titled “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense” that had attracted more than 800 followers, and she could also be seen elsewhere on the website using her personal account to speak out about the issue. Since her name began to trend, the account has been deleted.

While one might expect those pushing for gun control to latch on to Jamie’s tragedy to bolster their argument, it is some of her allies who have been the harshest critics of her parenting. Before it was deleted, Gilt’s Facebook page was inundated with angered people who told her she is not only a terrible mother, but an irresponsible gun owner.

Moreover, many of them are worried that Jamie’s shooting will becoming a rallying cry for those who want to limit the sale of guns in the United States. Gilt’s proud Facebook activism makes her an easy target for those who say that even close care cannot prevent all accidental firearm injuries and deaths.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...brags-hours-before-her-little-boy-shoots-her/



‘My 4-year-old gets jacked up to target shoot,’ mom brags hours before he shoots her

By Peter Holley March 9 at 2:49 PM

Hours after gun-rights advocate Jamie Gilt bragged on Facebook that her 4-year-old son “gets jacked up to target shoot,” the same child accidentally turned his mother into a target, shooting her in the back.

The 31-year-old Jacksonville woman was driving down a road in Putnam County, Fla., on Tuesday when her son managed to get hold of a gun while he was sitting in the back seat of the vehicle, according to a statement released by the Putnam County Sheriff’s Department.

She appears to maintain a Facebook page called “Jamie Gilt for Gun Sense,” which has since been inundated by people criticizing her passion for weapons in light of being shot by her son.
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How the hell does a four-year-old in the back seat (presumably strapped into a proper child seat...I hope?) reach a firearm in the first place? Where the hell was the firearm at the time?
 
Mitlov said:
How the hell does a four-year-old in the back seat (presumably strapped into a proper child seat...I hope?) reach a firearm in the first place? Where the hell was the firearm at the time?
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Probably not his shoulder holster...but with someone like that, who knows?

The screening/vetting process to become an Internet expert is considerably less than to become a presidential candidate. Just because someone is pro2A doesn't mean they are good gun owners.
 
She is fortunate that her son didn't shoot himself. This event does not make gun owners look bad...it makes *her* look bad.
 
Yup - people continue to do stupid things and earn stupid prizes. <sigh> It's always been that way, it's that way now, and it'll always be that way. Are you suggesting that we all hide under a rock somewhere in the off chance that something stupid might happen to someone within our ranks?

Really?

Look - I'm done trying to distance myself from people doing stupid things. It's a fools errand; not only does it presume that some form of test for 'not gonna do stupid things' can be accurately conducted in the first place, but it further presumes that we really actually want to skip down that slippery slope whereby only 'the right kind of people' get to exercise their Constitutional rights. No thanks.

So - will we will allow the court of public opinion to define safety relative to the lowest common denominator, e.g. restrict a Constitutional right to only 'the smart people'. That's the question to ask on social media.

Oh, and let's be fair - the anti RKBA folk on Facebook don't look any smarter than any other highly emotional demographic. Let's not elevate their status above that which is rational.
 
It's a (mostly) free society. People are free to do stupid things. This is why we have an ever dwindling thing called "personal responsibility".
 
I'm sorry but I'm carrying and I have my kid with me. That gun is going to be securely stored or on my person. Not loose for just anybody to grab. The kid could have shot himself. Had the gun been in the glove box, this wouldn't have happened.

Kids are little suicide machines (watched my six year old godson try to climb the fence at Gatorland so he could see the gators better). His mom wasn't watching him, and my wife had a horrified look on her face so I spun about and the little git was almost to the top of the fence/rail part . He could have easily fallen in (which happened once in the 80s). He screamed like a demon when I grabbed him and everyone looked at me like I was nut. And he tried another few times to climb into habitats with gators and crocs.

No way am I leaving a gun loose for a kid to grab.
 
I am with rbernie all the way. We had nothing to do with this woman's extreme carelessness. It didn't hurt me and it didn't hurt you or any other responsible gun owner.

We all should be tarred with the same brush as a fool? I think not.
 
I am with rbernie all the way. We had nothing to do with this woman's extreme carelessness. It didn't hurt me and it didn't hurt you or any other responsible gun owner.

We all should be tarred with the same brush as a fool? I think not.
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We aren't responsible true. But when they start passing anti-gun laws based of of stuff like this then it'll matter to you.
 
I'll take my chances. Incidents happen every day pro and con.
gunwise. Blowing up this incident is not going to change a thing. On THR or Facebook or anywhere else.

Read post #5 again.
 
Jlr2267 said:
She is fortunate that her son didn't shoot himself. This event does not make gun owners look bad...it makes *her* look bad.
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Exactly! People seem to have forgotten a little thing called personal responsibility. People do stupid things all the time. Their actions only reflect on them. To think they paint a broader picture is foolish.

People would do well to step away from social media as much as possible. And yes I see the irony of this post on a social media forum. People spend to much time and put to much stock in it. The comments from the OP about starting a campaign against someone you don't like is akin to mob tactics. But that's an entirely different conversation.
 
Jlr2267 said:
She is fortunate that her son didn't shoot himself. This event does not make gun owners look bad...it makes *her* look bad.
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It makes both gun owner and her look bad. Trust me, it make us all look like idiots when something like this happens. Generalization and stereotypes reinforced for so many people right now... :(
 
We aren't responsible true. But when they start passing anti-gun laws based of of stuff like this then it'll matter to you.
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Then, what do you propose should be done about it?

Whining on a gun forum about what someone did that was stupid, and how it maybe / could / might / affect gun owners is not exactly proactive...it's just whining.
 
We aren't responsible true. But when they start passing anti-gun laws based of of stuff like this then it'll matter to you.
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So work to keep them from doing that. Telling me that I have to hide my RKBA sensibilities under a rock on Facebook doesn't seem like an effective approach to that problem.
 
Her Facebook postings are not the issue. Not properly securing her loaded weapon is the issue.

She'll probably make a pile of money on the talk show circuit.
 
Do you honestly think this incident is going to change opinions of many people? I don't. Anyone that doesn't see this as an accident and a "personal accountability" issue is probably anti anyway.

I always kept semi auto guns in my vehicles with nor round in the chamber when my kids were small. I wasn't worried too much about them but was always concerned about one of their friends. I know I was giving up a second in a SD scenario but the risk was worth the added safety. I don't know a four year old that can work the slide on a semi-auto pistol.
 
What I hate about social media is how people pile on the hateful comments without knowing much about what really happened. And even if they knew the facts, they should normally just keep their negativity to themselves. Words can have real impact on people's lives. The lady just got shot in the back. Whatever happened was a very bad accident. Half of the English speaking world calling her stupid and a terrible mother is going to have a real effect on her and the boy. This stuff on the internet is forever. He will read this stuff one day when he is old enough.

We as gun owners should live the high road. Of course we're not perfect, we all make mistakes, but we can at least treat each other with kindness, especially when we get hit and are down.
 
Then, what do you propose should be done about it?

Whining on a gun forum about what someone did that was stupid, and how it maybe / could / might / affect gun owners is not exactly proactive...it's just whining.
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Perhaps a member will take this thread to heart and 1.) be careful with their weapon(s) and 2.) be careful what they post on social media.



It may save someone's life.
 
For myself, I'm going to forgo getting too pumped
about this until a little more info is available.
 
I see the post and the later event as two separate things. I'm also awaiting more information.

You don't see people scrubbing other people's social media posts about cars after they have a car accident, do you?

Mike
 
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I see the post and the later event as two separate things. I'm also awaiting more information.

You don't see people scrubbing other people's social media posts about cars after they have a car accident, do you?

Mike
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I don't see anyone attempting to ban cars, do you?
 
So when does the lawsuit come?
Likely it was the gun manufacturer, ammo, holster, truck, carseat manufacturer, toddler's clothing, State's fault.....[emoji16]
 
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