Emergency food supply

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I was just at Costco, and they are offering a freeze-dried cache of 275 portion that comes in a 5 gallon bucket. Supposed to have a 20 year shelf life.

It cost around $120.

It's the same one offered in this ebay auction.

Funny, the winning bidder is here in AZ and could have gotten it cheaper at Costco, with no shipping :D
 
I'm guessing it would be nasty and meager, but it's neat that they sell that there.

They might sell a lot more of them in the gulf coast area. Arizona doesn't have too many natural disasters.
 
Emergency food supply? That's why I have neighbors. Peanuts, chiles and a little lemon juice and they taste great :evil:
 
There was a post about this over at www.survivalblog.com recently...of course now, after checking, I can't find it...I'm thinking there was some controversy over the "275 portion" part of the deal...that the caloric content in a portion wasn't enough to constitute a full day's calories for the average adult...I may be wrong on the details...grrrrrrrr, I apologize that I can't find the specifics right off-hand, maybe someone else read that same post and remembers it better than I do?

All that said...137-ish portions at that price probably ain't a bad deal, either!
 
...I'm thinking there was some controversy over the "275 portion" part of the deal...that the caloric content in a portion wasn't enough to constitute a full day's calories for the average adult...I

Considering that the average American is overweight, for most people I don't think this would be a problem, unless you are talking about a super-catastrophe that lasts for months (nukes). All you need is a little something to fill your belly, provide some energy and nutrients. I think water will normally be a bigger problem.

Personally, I think GNC provides all you need: protein powder, weight-gainer (Beefcake!), and multi-vitamins. Lasts forever, easy storage, just mix with water.
 
Might not be great, but it's something you probably wouldn't be tempted to dip into. Just make sure your water & fuel are squared away. Freeze-dried cacciatore is probably not as tasty in its unreconstituted state as, say, "astronaut ice cream.":)
 
I can eat a brick of ramen, though. Mmmm crunchy.

Good point about not being tempted to dip into it.

My wife has rat-forked most of my MREs that I had socked away :rolleyes:
 
I actually teid some of the food. (They were sampling it at our local Costco.)

Pretty good stuff for survival food. If my wife didn't pick up a bucket yet, its on the list to get...
 
Personally, I think GNC provides all you need: protein powder, weight-gainer (Beefcake!), and multi-vitamins. Lasts forever, easy storage, just mix with water.

I think you would miss salt and oils very quickly. Not to mention the lack of vegetables. Canned veggies are never a mistake. A restaurant metal can of vegetable oil is good, too, they have a longer shelf life. And properly sealed honey just doesn't expire, really.
 
I started stocking up recently. What I've been doing is just picking up an extra thing or two at the store every time I go. I usually go for what's on sale, so get a couple cans of chili, canned veggies, packaged rice, etc. I also get those big 2.5 gallons of water (they stack well).

I've only been doing this for about a month, but I've already built a nice little stockpile. It's all food that lasts, is normal stuff, and buying it a bit at a time on sale means it's not hurting financially.
 
A sealed plastic 20lb sack of rice is always good, too. Rice and dried beans are plenty of protein and carbs. Many people in the world live just fine on that, with the occasional meat and vegetables added in.
 
I have a big sack of rice and one of beans squirrelled away. (costco again)

They'll last a couple of years. If I don't need them by their expiration date then they'll go to a food bank.

Same with water. I live in a desert, so I have several cases of bottled water on hand.

Just today there was a broken water main near my work, so the water is contaminated. A large break in a residential area would mean a run on the bottled water in local stores.
 
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some things to consider as emergency foods are...
1)honey..it lasts a long while well sealed...
2)powdered milk...fairly long life stuff when well sealed also.
3)rice, beans well sealed protected from moisture last a long while...
4)salt...
5)vitamins (C-D-B and essential minerals)
6) boullion cubes
7) water, filters, distiller
8) peanut butter
this provides a rather cheap and easily assembled core
supply with surprising menu options if you like been and rice! and these all have a reasonable shelf life and are things you can use and replace as time goes by...beyond this you can look at packaged items...nitrogen pack is good for long shelf life, dehydrated stuff similar to what you can get from mountain house or even the diet outfits like nutri-system would help. a 7 day packaged MRE type set-up would be an advantage for short-term or highly mobile use.

check out "life after doomsday" and similar books for some pretty good suggestions.
 
It may be gross, but consider Ensure type nutrition supplement. This can stay for years, and delivers everything you need. It is ideal tactically--no need for anything besides a can opener.
 
I don't think ensure is a very good choice. It is heavy (due to all the water), relatively low in calories, and extremely expensive.

You are much better off with just about any dry-goods. Rice, beans, etc. Protein shakes, mass gainers, etc. are a great protein and fat source but you are simply not able to metabolize enough of them to use them exclusively. But they would be a great way to add protein and fat (read the labels, they have lots of it) to a diet consisting mostly of carbohydrates.
 
Is this the Mountain House brand stuff you boys are talking about? If so, then be advised: It's yummy for freeze-dried fare! I can't vouch for any other brand, however.

BTW, I stumbled across a website some weeks ago while Internet shopping for Mountain House products that advertised a one-man/woman, year's supply of an assortment of their recipes of freeze-dried stuff for something like $1200. The advertisement stated that this meant 2000 calories/day x 365 days for one man or woman. Not bad . . . if it's the same Mountain House stuff you buy at REI and it really does deliver on the nutrients and calories.

Personally, I think GNC provides all you need: protein powder, weight-gainer (Beefcake!), and multi-vitamins. Lasts forever, easy storage, just mix with water.

This kind of fare is absolutely wonderful for situations where one would need to travel from a post-SHTF 'base of operations' for several days for whatever reason (e.g. to hunt TBLs worthless 4-pointer or obtain pharmaceuticals) and might be on foot for some or all of that time. Cliff Bars and single-serving packets of Met-Rx are so light and one of each will carry a man for hours and hours (a whole day if he's properly conditioned and motivated).
 
During last year's "unpleasantness", was a period of time that MRE's were about all some folks had...they aren't bad (except for the vegetarian version)...lots of suposition about the gum.

Of course it's all dependant on a sourse of clean drinking water. Plan ahead on that one. tennis ball jammed in teh tolit keeps back-up out...beating in a rubber stopper in a clean tub is a good large water container....even after the water pressure fails, there is still 30 to 50gal. in a sotarge type hot water heater (and I'll never go to an on-demand heater just because of this lesson). Rain water if youve got a larg enough collection system.

(DO NOT DRINK RAIN WATER FROM A MODERN ROOF!!! besides the odd chemicals in today's roofing, have taken x-rays of two people, terminal, from some weird bird-viral thing, passed on by bird-poop-contaminated water.)

Didn't plan on stock piling MRE's at tax payer's expense, but the way the system worked was odd. Once you scrounged up enough gas to run a car, would get in line at a distribution point with the trunk open, as you drove past, would slow down and a guradsman would toss in a case of MRE''s and a flat of bottled water (some times it was beer cans..of water, not beer). Never even stopped, just rolled by at a walking pace.

So..there is a stash of four cases (and we ate 5 other cases)...don't know the life expectancy, but these were not old-stock when they were handed out.

Some things I'd not have though of before Katrina, but keep at hand now.

1. Those crappy solar garden lights...not real bright...but can set them out during the day and bring them in at night. Beats sitting in the dark with dead flashlight batteries.

2. Geologist's hammer. With no real law and street gangs about, don't want to stand around with a rubber hose getting gas from a flooded/destroyed car. Plastic tub..geologist hammer...easy-open-can. Yeah...it's looting, even on flood totaled cars, upside down, washed up on higher ground....so both the gangs and the toops just might shoot you.

3. Generator to be used more sparingly than you'd think. Only lights on for miles kind of draws people to you...some you don't want drawn...so it has less use than one would think in a real SHTF situation.

(Didn't have it then, but even a bottom of the line 1st generation night vision monocular would have been a big help.)

4. GOOD radio. In the world before GPS, AM direction finding radios were common with boaters (you'd triangulate two radio stations to find your aproximate location)...good sensitive radios, and with the dircetion finding antenna, can align it for specific directions. Large radios, pre- "chip" technology, so the ld transister borads take up a good bit of space...can make them run on 12v DC. Ebay item.
 
That looks like a decent idea. I just have a few 20lb sacks of rice, and beans along with a few cases of mixed vegtables, boulon cubes (chicken, and beef)
salt,sugar,pepper. Also a good idea is some multi vitamins, I make my own deer jerky every season so I always have plenty of that. Theres also a big 55gallon drum of water (plastic of course) plus a filter for more later if need be. Never thought about honey before. I have enough for me and my family for a good year with rationing. I probably have more money in the water filter than everything else on the list totaled.
 
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