End of the Kalashnikov?

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Im seriously doubting seeing the end of AK pattern rifles in Russia, but Ill play along. Id love to see a new surge in AK pattern kits for dirt cheap prices again. Their trash would absolutely be my treasure.
 
Russia has been working with several different assualt rifles as repalcements for the AK74. I'm sure they will update the AK within the next 10 years or so but it won't be an AR15 or a NATO weapon. I wouldn't be surprised to see them copy China's newest weapon.
 
Sarcasm much? It would be awesome in the sense that the country the gave birth to the most prolific firearm in the world would be using, in some circles, the most reviled weapon in the world. Cause as we all know, ARs jam after every round and are unreliable as all get out... unlike the AK. Again, sarcasm.
 
i think there is a political reason behind the talk of changing weapons, not the weapons performance
 
Once upon a time I complained to my paperboy about the inaccuracies in his paper.

He told me "either its true or it isn't."

Dump the AK? Russians would sooner substitute lite beer in place of Vodka.
 
Russia bowing down to a law suit? Not gonna happen.
Russia adapting US firearms? Nope.
Russia adapting French firearms? That those were plentiful, you know never shot, dropped twice.
I could see them adapting Chinese firearms before the latter.
 
Magog, neither of those guys can shoot in the video you posted. The AK is certainly accurate at 200m and beyond.
 
Prvada.ru is Russia's tabloid. It used to be the official paper but it went away when the USSR collapsed and a tabloid company picked up the name.
They were also the ones that declared Izhmash went bankrupt.

I do hear that bat-boy has a strong preference to the Galil.
 
Russia has perfectly adequate small arms in the form of the AEK-971/AK-103/AK-107 and similar - and the units that need that level of performance receive it. The video posted compares obsolete technology - the M16A1 vs. the AKM. Both weapons in their current incarnations are capable of FAR better accuracy than that - especially with modern sighting systems which both rifles are designed to use.
 
Russia has perfectly adequate small arms in the form of the AEK-971/AK-103/AK-107 and similar - and the units that need that level of performance receive it. The video posted compares obsolete technology - the M16A1 vs. the AKM. Both weapons in their current incarnations are capable of FAR better accuracy than that - especially with modern sighting systems which both rifles are designed to use.

And when the person knows how to shoot.
 
There are a lot of AR advocates here that have no use for an AK. So be it. However, until the average shooter can deliver performance under stress better than the capabilities of the AK, then the better accuracy of the AR will never be realized. In simpler words, the AK might just meet or exceed the capabilities of the average soldier. I don't see it being dumped by countries that can't afford the AR (which proably costs double, or more, than an AK).
 
Almost all of the major world powers use a service rifle of indigenous design. It seems to be a matter of pride. The current leaders of Russia take national pride very seriously. I agree -- the Kalashnikov pattern will be replaced eventually -- but it will be with a rifle of Russian design.

That said, firearms design has not advanced much in the past half-century... certainly not as much as it did during the previous half century. We are still using gas-operated, magazine-fed self loading rifles. The latest designs are little more than tweaks of designs that have been around since the 1960s or before. The AK pattern is far from obsolete.

And I have a question... why are French weapons mentioned as the only other possibility besides the US? What do they even make? The FA-MAS isn't really all that. If I had to pick one other nation besides the US that is known for making quality firearms, well, it would probably be Russia; but if not them, then maybe Belgium or Switzerland or Germany. But France? Wierd. Maybe the Defense Minister just brought them up as a possibility because they already have a buying relationship with them.
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6BpI3xD6h0


Accuracy is all a lie... The M16 hit kill shoots with all rounds at 200 yards, the Ak only hit the paper once at 200 yards.

Oh yeah, the AK is a super accurate weapon on par with real rifles.
From a rest like that, an AK should keep every shot on a large paper plate at 200 yards, never mind a huge target like they used. The M16 should keep its rounds on a small paper plate at that distance, or better. Instead, the M16 guy was all over the target and the AK guy could barely even get on the paper, and neither one was the fault of the gun.

Watch carefully as the AK guy slaps and jerks the trigger at 1:20. No wonder he couldn't hit with it. Makes me wonder if he was doing that on purpose, or if his primary background was with open-bolt subguns or something.

BTW, the part about "full auto being the default setting for the AK" was exactly backwards; semiauto is the under-stress default. It takes fine motor skill to stop the switch at the center (full auto) notch; a panicked push under stress will shove it all the way down, to semi.
 
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