Enfield Rear Sights and Other stuff.

[M.E.Eldridge]

Yeah, I bouht an Enfield No.4 Mk.1 at a local gun shop in great condition.I'd say that it has 85-90% bluing and a dinged up stock.I love it, except for one thing:it has the rear 300 and 600 yard apetures and I wanted the ladder sight. So can I replace the sight with the one I want? Where could I get a ladder rear sight anyway?

Also the thing has a butt trap, which I presume is for a cleaning kit. Where can I get the cleaning kit?I also want to know where to find a good original or reproduction sling for it.Any thoughts?

 

[mustanger98]

Numrich has the ladder type micrometer rear sight you're wanting. Here's the link to the No.4 Mk1 parts list and it shows a schematic. The ladder type sight is pictured.

To swap the sights, you have to knock the little retainer pin up out of the rear sight's base pin. Then, knock the base pin out. There's a detent/spring under the right side of the sight- don't lose 'em. To put the micrometer ladder on, just reverse these steps. Use a small brass punch- you don't want to use steel hammer or punch as it'll mar the steel of the receiver and pins.

http://www.e-gunparts.com/productschem.asp?chrMasterModel=1990zNO 4 MKI

 

[M.E.Eldridge]

That is just what I needed,thanks. Just put in the order.

 

[Dienekes]

I have a number of #4s. The one I shoot most is "sporterized" with an ATI "zytel" stock which I like. All have the elevation adjustable rear sight--which, BTW, also has the 300 yard aperture. As it turned out, the big aperture serves me better than the elevation adjustable one unless I am trying to hit rocks *way* out there.

The Lee-Enfield is crude in some ways, but crude in a very sensible way.

 

[cracked butt]

I bought a ladder sight for mine off ebay for about $13 a month or so ago, but haven't had a chance to take it to the range yet.

The one I have looks a little different than the one pictured, mine has thread all the way to the top of the screw and graduations up to 1200 meters IIRC.

 

[mustanger98]

The one that came on my Fazakerly No.4 Mk2 has graduations to 1300m. I figure at that distance, it oughta be minute of cab-over size target. (Cab-over size is for reference only, much like VW bug size at 950m I recall somebody citing.)

 

[Mk VII]

the picture above shows a carbine sight. The rifle one graduated to 1300yds (not metres, please) is much more common. I've got examples of both for sale if anyone really needs them and can't get them locally.

 

[mustanger98]

the picture above shows a carbine sight. The rifle one graduated to 1300yds (not metres, please) is much more common. I've got examples of both for sale if anyone really needs them and can't get them locally.

Okay, I wondered about the graduations. I wonder why Numrich is listing this one for the No.4's. When did England switch to metric? I think the only reason any US weapons are metric either, in caliber designation and sight graduations, is because of NATO.

 

[Mk VII]

the change began in the 1960s (in schools, anyway). When I worked for Flight Refuelling Ltd in 1981 they still dimensioned drawings in inches.
The SLR sight was graduated in yards but by the '80s the manuals ignored this and pretended it was metres.
During WW1 the M1917 Browning MG sight was graduated in metres because the maps they were shooting off were all French metric surveys