engraved model 27

[gutterman]

acquired a beautiful fully engraved S&W model 27 with real stag grips,nickel finish and 8 3/8" brl. Came in display case also. Gun was part of my uncles collection. gun has never been fired. after getting it home(along with 12 others),discovered that the cylinder stop had been completely omitted during production. you can see the machined "cut" for the stop,but the piece was never removed to install the stop. in fact it was engraved right over it. closer inspection proved to be hand engraving. my question is,do i send it back to S&W since it was obviously an error, or take it to a good gunsmith. the gun was purchased back in 1990. I'm afraid i might not see it again if i send it off. any advise?

 

[BADSBSNF81]

Call S&W and get it lettered before you do anything. If it is a factory engraved revolver with that kind of mistake, it will be worth it to a die hard S&W collector.

 

[9mmepiphany]

i wouldn't be too sure it was an "error"...especially since it was engraved over.

it might have been done by request and would certainly avoid the possibility of a drag mark on the cylinder

 

[BCRider]

Good point from 9mm. It's hard to imagine anyone engraving stuff on the inner frame faces and not noticing that the stop isn't there.

If it was done outside of the factory then in a similar idea the stop may have been removed to avoid a rub line.

You say you see the cut but the piece is still there? That seems odd since the cut should have removed the metal and left an opening. It may be worth looking inside to see if perhaps the existing stop was ground down then blued and put back in with an eye to avoiding a drag line.

 

[rainbowbob]

What is the effect on function of no cylinder stop?

 

[Oro]

I'm with 9mm.. and BCrider. No way the cylinder stop was not cut out and then "engraved over" on a S&W. Never seen and engraved S&W that covered the interior frame over the stop cut - that's nonsense. Either there's a misunderstanding of the OP of what "cylinder stop" means or it's just mongrel gun. Pics? That's always the final arbiter. What exactly are you talking about?

What is the effect on function of no cylinder stop?

Trigger doesn't work, hammer doesn't work, gun doesn't index. Nothing works. Nothing. Pull the trigger, nothing works. Period.

 

[rainbowbob]

Trigger doesn't work, hammer doesn't work, gun doesn't index. Nothing works. Nothing. Pull the trigger, nothing works. Period.

That's kinda what I thought. Who would make such a thing?

 

[9mmepiphany]

it's much along the lines of Colt making their commemorative/cased 1911 models on factory 2nds.

they were never intended to be fired

Oro - wouldn't the action still function except for the cylinder not locking up...i would think the only parts effected would be the bolt and it's coil spring?

 

[rcmodel]

they were never intended to be fired

Not!

Colt, or S&W either, ever let a gun out of the factory that was not intended to be fired.

Factory second commemoratives?
Give me a break!

rc

 

[engravertom]

I would love to see some pics of the engraving!



Tom

 

[rcmodel]

I still want to know if he is talking about the cylinder stop (Frame Lug) on the side of the frame that keeps the cylinder from falling off when it is open?

Or the cylinder stop (locking bolt) that locks the cylinder in place when it is ready to fire.

The former seems much more likely to me then the latter.

rc

 

[9mmepiphany]

Factory second commemoratives?
Give me a break!

you don't have to believe it, my source was credible...he subject came up when i questioned the workmanship of a somewhat collectible (serial #) Python. it had over-large pin holes