Engraving class

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4v50 Gary

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Just finished two weeks of engraving at TSJC NRA Summer School. The class was awesome and the younger guys did much better than any of us older guys. Must be something about hand eye coordination or ability to learn.

Anyway, the instructor Dr. Pierson taught us how to look at rococo and to distinguish the styles. For example, early English (1590-early 1800s) and American are very similar. Late 1800s English is very different. He also covered some German but ignored the oak leafs and acorns (no time to cover it). Type of scroll (circular or elliptical), true or holding (width of scroll's interior), common stem or overlap, peak or circular leafs, relieved or non-relieved leaves.

Dr. Pierson talked about canting and how to use it make the objects stand or out seem subdued. Shading lines, etc. After one week with the chasing hammer, he introduced us to the push graver and then the pneumatic engraver. Wow! The latter was awesome.

We had to sharpen our engraver bits (we had power hones and fixtures) before anything else so everyone was busy sharpening them (we had purchased blanks).

We used templates to draw them and then transfer our images onto steel plates. The procedure was simple:

1) Trace drawing on light board on paper.
2) flip paper over (not on light board) and trace again with a dark pencil.
3) cut out.
4) Apply beeswax onto steel.
5) put cut out with heavy dark pencil side down onto steel plate.
6) Burnish the paper to transfer the image onto the wax.
7) You may use a brass scribe to scratch the steel plate.

We also transferred images from engraved plates. We did a lot of practice plates just to familiarize ourselves with eye level of workpiece, canting of tool, elevation of tool, pressure on tool (not enough and you get skipping). We did lettering, circles, scrolls. With the pneumatic engraver, we also had to move our vise with our free hand. The chasing hammer was slower and we moved our body to put ourselves into the optimal position for comfort and control. BTW, we stood when we used the chasing hammer and sat when we used the pneumatic engraver.

1) Apply ink to plate
2) wipe plate down with glossy paper (think clay type magazine paper or fancier clay type paper ads)
3) Put packaging tape onto plate and burnish. Use thinner tape as it conforms to irregular surfaces better.
4) lift tape off.
5) You should have cleaned the workpiece of any oil (acetone - wear gloves).
6) When plate is clean and dry, place tape onto plate and burnish.
7) Lift tape (and if you want to keep the pattern, store it in your notebook).
8) Apply talcum powder (there are corn starched ones that are very fine and safe to use --- there was a recent lawsuit about some person getting cancer from using baby powder).
9) You may use a brass scribe to scratch the plate.

He discussed placement of engraving (must conform with flow of the fyre-arm), restoration (a lot of stuff that wasn't covered in the regular Repair I or II class) including restoration of engraving, cost estimate of jobs (the business aspect) and other things useful for gonne smiths. Some students asked him to become a full time instructor - something he doesn't want as he is retired professor of thirty years from some Texas university.

Because the classes were only one week long (engraving and advanced engraving), there isn't much time to develop skill as one would during the course of a regular semester. Still, we did decent work for novices. We'd be about half way done when he would lecture and give us another assignment. It was work, work, work but very fun and rewarding.

One nice thing about engraving since, they have the sharpeners at school as well as the power tools, you can go to school with only a small toolbox and not a big chest of tools that requires a pickup truck to haul. Additionally, they finally got the air conditioner installed and working. No more sweatbox like when I attended the regular program. If you have the time next summer sign up for Dr. Pierson's class at TSJC.

http://trinidadstate.edu/gunsmithing/nra_summer.html
 
That was very interesting! I have neither the time nor the patience for that, but I am glad folks like you do.

Thanks for the post, sir!

Jim
 
I admire your courage. As a veterinarian, performing surgery, even eye or spinal surgery, never bothered me. Living tissue heals. But scratching up a nice gun and risk a slip?? Horrors! :eek:
 
I going to have to learn how to post pics. I do it so infrequently that I never remember how. Please bear with me.
 
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4v50 Gary, you are going to love the Engraving Forum. There is more free information and video lessons there than I have found anywhere else. I am very new to engraving myself. I attended this year's Engrave In just last month and was surprised at how much I learned from talking to engravers and looking at their work. If you go to the web site, look for my post "Engrave In, my take". What a great bunch of people.
 
0. (I forgot this one) hit “reply to thread”
1. Hit “upload a file”
2. select the folder where your picture is
3. Select picture
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An added note, as most of my photos these days are taken by cell phone, I start the thread/reply process on the computer, then sign in with my smart phone and do the actual up load directly from the phones photo files. Don't sign out on the computer.
 
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WOW, just WOW. Is that hand engraved or some modern laser magic.?


Inspired by this genius of the Renaissance, this fabulous K-80 over-under shotgun reflects Da Vinci’s many contributions to the world of art and science illustrated through details highlighted by the engravers who completed this masterpiece.


The skill of some of these European artists is remarkable especially when you consider that they are replicating a world renowned masterpiece whose original medium as oil on canvas and they have completed their commission with chisel on steel. Some of the work, executed in the Bolino method, produce images that appear to be in 3-D. Conversely, I admit that I have always had trouble making stick figures

The people that did it are at
http://creativeart.it/monografia?idp=254&camblingua=2&changelan=yes
Worth a look
 
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The dexterity of the human hand, the creativity of the human mind can only be a product of a higher being.

We have a BINGO .....
Look at the fingers on a newborn babies hand, the fingernail of the pinkie, the joints, the way the hand functions, the sense of the babies touch, not to mention the rest of the body.

Now you tell me ,,,,,we climbed up on a rock or dropped down from a tree???
I DON’T think so
 
Good afternoon,
Fellows, I'm not an Atheist but before we start a religious commo on a BP Forum, lets stick to hard iron and cold steel ( iron will of some artists who strive daily with a cold steel chisels to produce such masterworks.) and give credit to them as well. ;o)
regards all!
 
All credit to them, and kudos as well, we are all born with talents of one form or another. Some greater, some lesser.
Speaking of talents, Wednesday is range day with a 15 year old granddaughter who shows much talent with hand gun and rifle, and I am out of time on the keyboard.:)
 
That style of engraving is called bulino and we were told about it in engraving. I am currently enrolled in a scrimshaw class where we are being taught how to do it.

BTW, all my pieces from the engraving class has been left at school for the professor to pick up and grade. I have to wait for him to be finished before I get access to them again for photographing.
 
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