Enough Already!: Abuse of the 9mm

[jeepmor]

Phallic comparisons aside...you jokers



I chose the 45 for the simple reason that a corrections officer stated an observation in a forum, maybe this one, can't recall for sure. I'm paraphrasing here, but will quote the statement for clarity.

"This place is full of guys with bullet holes in them, predominantly 9mm holes. However, there are no guys in here with .45 caliber holes in them, they don't seem to make it to the jail, they typically go straight to the morgue. For what it's worth, that's my observation as a corrections officer"

This is why I own a 45 and not a 9mm. Oops, bought a 9mm for my wife since she stated the 45 kicked a bit much for her liking. We both have compact Mil Pro Taurus models, so they are small and carry more recoil than a full size pistol as everyone knows. She likes gun and I like mine, so I guess I'm on both sides of the fence here.

The primary advantage of the 45 is heavier ammo. Heavier and bigger breaks bones more easily and causes more trauma, stopping the potential assailant faster. However, to play this whup it out "stand in front of 9mm" crap, you guys, sheesh, is this high school fellas? Each round is effective, I don't want to ever be on the receiving end of anything more than a paintball gun or airsoft, and neither do any of you.

jeepmor

 

[Vex]

If all rounds are equal, then we should all carry .25's.

Think about it.

.45 - .10 = 9mm (.355)
9mm - .10 = .25

If Sig made a P226 in .25, it could have like a 30 round capacity for those extended gun fights, almost no recoil for that second or third follow up shot, and still be as effective as a 9mm or 45... because we all know, caliber doesn't mean squat.

 

[Dr.Rob]

I abuse my 9mm regularly... grip bluing is worn off, shoot all manner of dirty ammo out of it, throw the magazines on the ground, bang it into obstacles (not intentionally mind you)... take it out in the rain/snow/mud etc.

If you don't abuse it a little how do you know it's worth a damn?

FEG PJK-9HP first model clone.

 

[Biker]

If all rounds are equal, then we should all carry .25's.

Think about it.

.45 - .10 = 9mm (.355)
9mm - .10 = .25

If Sig made a P226 in .25, it could have like a 30 round capacity for those extended gun fights, almost no recoil for that second or third follow up shot, and still be as effective as a 9mm or 45... because we all know, caliber doesn't mean squat.

Gotta hand it to ya there.
Biker

 

[McCall911]

Sorry, Mad Magyar, but it's turning into another 9mm vs .45 caliber war.

:banghead:

 

[garrettwc]

9mm is a fine round, so is pretty much any pistol round. But the plain truth is all pistols are short range, inaccurate, weak, and hard to control... But I can't fit a FA-MAS in a pocket holster.

+1.

If I know I'm going to a fight I'll bring a rifle, or better yet I'll just not go. The handgun is a weapon of convenience. With quality ammo, the difference isn't worth debating.

The ammo and the handgun you choose are at most 10% of the solution. Find a gun you shoot well and that is reliable, then feed it good ammo. After you have that accomplished, you can stop fretting about the tools, and spend your time on the 90% of tactics and training that will really save your life.

 

[Vex]

Find a gun you shoot well and that is reliable, then feed it good ammo. After you have that accomplished, you can stop fretting about the tools, and spend your time on the 90% of tactics and training that will really save your life.

I wonder if they make "Blended Metal" rounds for a .25acp...?

 

[otomik]

vex, i see where you're coming from, but .25 (or anything not metric) is a cowboy cartridge by international standards, what you really need is a civilized european cartridge like 5.45x18mm, the Drotik pistol has a 24 round flush fit mag of .20 caliber ammunition. The russians, realizing that caliber means nothing concentrating on getting as many tiny bits of lead downrange as quickly as possible (1700 rounds per minute), so it's a machine pistol, and a stable all-steel one with porting. controllable, so you can shoot it with your pinky extended like you're holding a wine glass

http://www.enemyforces.com/firearms/drotik.htm

stan bulmer has a "payload" bullet that detonates in a energy dumping tactical thermonuclear explosion when it senses pig flesh or an iraqi buttocks.

 

[Johnny Guest]

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