Enough with the Bersa Posts Already

You opinion on Bersa

  • Have a Bersa .380 and love it

    Votes: 43 47.8%

  • Have Bersa .380 and hate it

    Votes: 2 2.2%

  • My next purchase is the Bersa .380

    Votes: 13 14.4%

  • I will never owe a Bersa .380, they are a POS

    Votes: 32 35.6%
  • Total voters
    90
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I own the Bersa FireStorm in dual tone.

Last Sunday I ran across a Mark IV Gov't 380 and it followed me home under the condition that I evict the Bersa. I agree to the terms but I lied:D I just could'nt bring my self to do it. I mean, if I sold it, I only would get maybe 100.00 for it. Looking at it in those terms, it's the best 100.00 gun I own
 
Not a fan of .380s. I moved right from rimfires to .44 Mag when I was learning to shoot pistols and I still have trouble taking even the 9mm seriously.

So it's nothing against the gun, I've just decided hat a 9mm is the littlest gun I want to buy so the Bursa donsn't interest me. I didn't vote as there wasn't an "other".
 
I didn't vote because I don't think they are POS, but have no intention of ever buying one. They just don't float my boat.
My S/O gave them all of a few seconds of her attention when looking, but passes them by as she looks at the CZ and the Beretta.
 
I had a bersa for about six months. Nice little gun, compact, reliable, etc. I couldn't get used to the idea of .380.
Bought a Glock 26, which is much wider, but 9mm.
Eventually also bought a used Kimber TLE II for $400 with Bersa trade in. Best deal i've gotten.

I got lucky, all three have been (and were) extremely reliable.
 
Very much looking forward to trying out my new matte Firestorm .380, but too much yard work so far. If and when the over 10 rd capacity mag ban expires, I intend to seriously drool over that Bersa double stack .380 Thunder if they start importing them.
 
A friend of mine showed up with a Bersa 380, after all I had seen on here about this gun I was eager to shoot it. And after 3 mags; I was really not impressed.:scrutiny:

I'll keep my Colt Gov't 380, Thank you.

Smoke
 
I doubt anyone would be impressed by any .380.

At yesterday's gun show two-tone Bursas were very common at $192.50, I would have got one but I found good deals on better guns instead.

--wally.
 
Wally, how do you define "impressed"? Is it the awe inspired by the size of a hole in a paper target? Is the BG unimpressed when he is shot in the face by a .380?

I don't understand why Americans are so obsessed with size. Sure, for CCW I'd go with a .45 over a .380, but in 40 some years on this planet I have never encountered a situation where I needed a CCW. Statistically speaking, I am unlikely to do so unless I decide to become involved in the crack cocaine trade. I still plan to get a CCW permit just to be prepared for that statistic anamoly, but frankly this rabid fanaticism so many people have against .380s strikes me as foolish, another example of American's compulsive obsession with bigger is better. My wife thinks this is directly related to the fact that many American men suffering from a tragic congenital deformity best not discussed in polite company, but I tell her this is an unfair observation.;)
 
My wife thinks this is directly related to the fact that many American men suffering from a tragic congenital deformity best not discussed in polite company, but I tell her this is an unfair observation.
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I agree with your wife! The tragic congenital deformity we American men have is a real problem. Married women follow us around begging. You can tell too, it seems it's a subject the wives bring up in conversation. We also can't urinate off a bridge without feeling the cold water or the rough bottom. We have to buy a holster for it too. Talk about a leg iron!

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Married women follow us around begging. You can tell too, it seems it's a subject the wives bring up in conversation. We also can't urinate off a bridge without feeling the cold water or the rough bottom. We have to buy a holster for it too. Talk about a leg iron!
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I'm soooo confused :confused: :confused: :confused:
 
There are plenty of 9mm and .40 S&W pistols in the size and weight range of the Bersa. That's why its hard to be impressed with any .380.

The Kel-Tec P3AT is impressively small and light, to have even .380 power in this size package is pretty impressive. I think the Kahr PM40 or PM is even more impressive! But they are a bit larger and thicker, and significantly heavier -- the ammo has a lot to do with it 180 gr .40 S&W vs 102gr .380.

--wally.
 
Thanks Wally.

You are right that the Kel Tec is a more effective CCW gun, but by the same token the Glock 36 is a more effective CCW gun than the Kel Tec. If, however, you want a plinker to take to the range, then the Bersa is more effective than the Kel Tec because it is more pleasant to shoot. If, like me, you happen to appreciate the basic Walther PP design, then the Bersa is even more effective.

The point I was trying to make is that not every gun purchase is a life or death decision. Sometimes people buy guns just for the fun of shooting them. If you feel that is not the case, I would suggest that you might be taking yourself too seriously. If you feel your life depends on your choice of carry gun, get the gun you believe is most effective for CCW, whether that is a Bersa, a Kel Tec, a Glock 36, a Kimber, or a wheel gun. Then find a gun like the Bersa that tickles your willy every time you take it to the range and go shoot to your hearts content because there should be more to life than just dogged self preservation.
 
It's not as if the Bersa *or* the .380 are inherently bad things. It's just that there are arguably better pocket pistols (smaller pistols of roughly equal power/capacity), better CCW pistols (pistols of the same size as the Bersa that shoot more powerful rounds), and better range guns (pistols of the same cost as the Bersa that shoot less expensive ammo).
 
They're nice guns. I talked a buddy into buying one using THR range reports. I've had a few opportunities to shoot it and can't complain. I do find the blowback .380 a bit more unpleasant to shoot than my own PM9. I'm not in any hurry to buy one, though. It's just one of those inexpensive novelties that just happens to be a superior product. I'll probably stick to 9x19 though because it's cheaper to practice with.
 
Lobotomy Boy,

I've already said its inevitable I'll pick up a Bersa eventually simply because its a fun little gun, of high quality at a great price.


rbernie,

What range gun is better, cheaper to practice with, and costs about the same a the Bersa .380?

Its not the Mak, two out of three ain't bad, but 9x18 ammo usually costs the same or more than .380ACP and your choices are more limited, 9mm Mak brass for reloading is rather scarce, 380 brass is pretty easy to find.

--wally.
 
Its not the Mak, two out of three ain't bad, but 9x18 ammo usually costs the same or more than .380ACP and your choices are more limited, 9mm Mak brass for reloading is rather scarce, 380 brass is pretty easy to find.
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I have to dis-agree on that one...

You can buy 9mm Mak JHPs suitable for self defense for cheaper than you can buy .380 FMJs:

9mm Makarov

.380 ACP

As for the brass, well you are less likely to find it just lying around, but it's still not difficult to find. I buy it at the gunshows all the time, and it's CHEAP. You can also order brand new 9mm Mak brass online...

And then there is the fact that 9mm Mak hits harder than .380 ACP...
 
Intersting how many have voted 'POS' but there are very few negative comments here.

I have to imagine these are mostly comments on the .380ACP as a caliber. Perhaps the poll should have been worded to ward off such votes. I'd be more interested to know who doesn't like the Bersa Thunder itself, and for what reason.

Personally, I think it's a fine gun at a great price.

Cheers,
ChickenHawk
 
Decent guns... a good choice for someone wanting a decent (not teeny tiny) gun that shoots something less powerful than a full 9mm...

Having said that, in the United States, I see a lot of reasons to just go ahead and go for the full 9mm... And as small as the P3AT is, if I want something smaller than a Kahr, I'd personally go for the P3AT. Guess if weren't concerned about size, and you weren't concerned with having the biggest bang for the size of pistol and you wanted a 380 for ballistics testing and you wanted a larger barrel than the P3AT...

Anyway, I have nothing against them at all and I've recommended them a couple times, but I don't have a pressing need for one and I'm not likely to buy one any time soon.
 
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