Eotech okay on a rimfire?

[CoyoteSix]

Hey all, today I was day dreaming about my dream 10/22. It included throwing an Eotech on it.

I've heard of the weird recoil of rimfire destroying high quality scopes, does it still apply to Red dots/Holos?

Also, would anyone like to explain Rim Fires break scopes???

 

[mljdeckard]

I have never heard of a rimfire breaking a scope because it was a rimfire.

 

[Sam Cade]

Also, would anyone like to explain Rim Fires break scopes???

They don't.

Powerful spring powered airguns can break cheap scopes by recoiling forward when the spring decompresses.


An Eotech is going to sit too high on a 10/22 with a standard stock for a shooter to get a proper cheek weld.

 

[rodensouth]

It will handle what little a rim fire has to give it.

I believe the notion rim fires will harm scopes stems from the fact that springer air rifles can due to the recoil in the opposite direction the scope was designed for. It's main sharp recoil is from the piston slamming forward. Also, some scopes are labeled "rim fire" because they are focused at 50 yards instead of 100. This makes some form a conclusion that ones not so labeled will be damaged.

FWIW I have nice glass on several rim fires.

 

[CoyoteSix]

Thanks for the Clarification. Also, I was thinking of either installing UTG's rail system and mounting it forward:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/RGR-020

Or mounting it Scout style Tapco's Intrafuse stock:

http://www.tapco.com/products/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=142

 

[CoyoteSix]

Also, and forgive me I always ask this: But has anyone ever tried landing headshots on small game with an Eotech?

Just curious, silly question I know.

 

[Inebriated]

I use a red dot on my Ruger MKIII for squirrels out to about 20 yards. If you've got a 1 MOA dot, and a rifle, you'll have ZERO issues nailing them, as long as your gun likes your ammo, and you're patient enough for a headshot.

Also, you'll likely have to raise the comb of the stock to work with an EOTech. Well, to work comfortably.

 

[CoyoteSix]

I may consider taking A "Tacticool" Rifle out for rabbit season this winter.

 

[Sam Cade]

Thanks for the Clarification. Also, I was thinking of either installing UTG's rail system and mounting it forward:

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/RGR-020

Or mounting it Scout style Tapco's Intrafuse stock:

http://www.tapco.com/products/index.php?_a=viewProd&productId=142

Either one of those is going to put it WAY too high.


Remember, the stock drops to put your eye in line with the irons.

 

[NOLAEMT]

eotech makes several models designed for rimfires... they are the standard scopes designed to sit on a rimfire dovetail. So I think its safe to say that the Eotech design is safe for rimfire.

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

The Rimfire EOTechs also lack recoil shielding which is part of why they are cheaper. I don't see how a rimfire could break a centerfire scope, never heard of it and don't see how it's possible.

 

[Pete D.]

Remember, the stock drops to put your eye in line with the irons.

Then....wouldn't any scope be too high?

 

[Inebriated]

Then....wouldn't any scope be too high?

Yes, but EOTech's are awfully tall, compared to most low-mounted scopes. ANY rifle with a scope SHOULD have comb adjusted accordingly, but if they don't, some setups are obviously better than others.

 

[Fast Frank]

Well...

Rimfires DO react a little bit like a springer airgun.

If you have ever fired a Marlin 60 semi auto .22 with cheapo scope mount rings, you probably noticed that the scope has a tendancy to creep towards the butt of the rifle.

It's common. There are threads right here on THR about how to make them stop doing that.

But wait! doesn't the rifle "Kick" rearward? Wouldn't inertia make the scope slide toward the muzzle?

Yes, it would. But here's the catch... The kick of the .22 bullet being fired isn't what's making the scope move. It's the slam of that heavy bolt smacking into the breech face of the barrel doing it.

See, the recoil of the bullet firing is gently absorbed by the recoil spring and the nylon buffer at the rear of the action.

The closing of the bolt, however, is tempered only by whatever resistance the cartridge offers as it goes onto the chamber. After that, it slams home so hard that slow motion videos show it bouncing as much as a quarter inch.

So, the answer is yes. A .22 auto does have a sharp forward kick.

But in reality it's nowhere near the energy levels found in a springer airgun and there are people shooting ridiculously cheap scopes on them all over the country.

I don't think you need to worry about your .22 breaking your scope.

You might want to invest in a good set of rings, but the scope will be fine.

 

[jtischauser]

I run an Eotech on my rimfire Nordic Components .22lr AR15 upper all the time.

 

[Fast Frank]

Having said all that...

Yes, I have fired a rimfire rifle with an Eotech on it.







The short story is that I wanted to shoot an online contest, I had a problem with my scope, and I can't see iron sights so good any more. (Getting old isn't much fun at all)

The Eotech is about equal to iron sights in accuracy. It doesn't magnify.

I think it might be a good setup for running squirrels, because it shoots with both eyes open and it really is quick to get on target because you don't have to line anything up to make it work. Yes, it's too tall for most rimfire stocks. Some sort of cheek riser would make that better.

As far as headshots on small critters goes, yes.

At squirrel hunting range, it's plenty accurate for that. You should be able to shoot groups under an inch at 50 yards (I did) and that's plenty good enough for noggin shots on a squirrel.

 

[monet61]

I wish I had enough money to put an EOTech on anything I own. Prolly' wouldn't be a rimfire though.

 

[7.62 Nato]

I've used a .22 conversion in an AR Carbine with an Eotech and have not had any problems.

 

[AethelstanAegen]

An Eotech is going to sit too high on a 10/22 with a standard stock for a shooter to get a proper cheek weld.

That's the beauty of an EOtech though. You don't need a cheek weld thanks to it's parallax free design. Pretty much no matter how you're looking through it, if the reticle's on target, so are you.

 

[Fast Frank]

That's the beauty of an EOtech though. You don't need a cheek weld thanks to it's parallax free design. Pretty much no matter how you're looking through it, if the reticle's on target, so are you.

True.

But it's mounted so high on a non-straight line rifle that it's got you holding your head up at a weird angle just to see through the window.

A cheek riser would help a bunch

 

[jtischauser]

That's an awesome use of an Eotech right there!

 

[FIVETWOSEVEN]

That's the beauty of an EOtech though. You don't need a cheek weld thanks to it's parallax free design. Pretty much no matter how you're looking through it, if the reticle's on target, so are you.

A cheek weld however allows you to hold the gun with better stability.

 

[Sam Cade]

But it's mounted so high on a non-straight line rifle that it's got you holding your head up at a weird angle just to see through the window.

The infamous chin weld.

 

[rodensouth]

Fast Frank, thanks for that info. I had not considered the bolt slamming home. I've only used Burris Z rings on weaver bases on the auto 22's, so they had no chance to slip. I can see how some aluminum rings mounted on the dovetail could walk back. Good stuff to know.