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ever shot a catfish?

Discussion in 'Hunting' started by jmorris, May 26, 2009.

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  1. jmorris

    jmorris Member

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    I built a pond rake to clean out one of our ponds to make it possible to fish again. Well it stirred up a little bit of everything. I noticed a catfish right at the waters edge that I assumed I raked up the day before. As I closed in I realized it was a snake that had taken him to shore. He was about half way there but the shot dislodged the fish.

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  2. indoorsoccerfrea

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    that's a nice sized snake you got there! 5 foot? looks to be a water moccason if i can see it right...

    ive shot at a bass in my pond once...i forgot to account for the deflection of light and the change of the bullet's path, so i missed. such a shame, i was hungry
     
  3. countertop

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    Is that a moccasin???

    I hate snakes
     
  4. svtruth

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    IIRC has, or used to have a gun season for pike. The females would come into shallow water to spawn, attended by males. Vermonters would climb trees and shoot at them. The concussion would stun them. I believe alcohol was often involved too.
    Can anyone confirm?
     
  5. countertop

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    Yes.

    They still do. There was a great article in the NY Times about this a couple of years ago.

    Apparently, Virginia does as well - though I knew people in Vermont who did and have yet to find anyone in Virginia who does.

    I blogged about it then (at my old site)
     
  6. MCgunner

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    When I was a kid, I shot a redfish, or next to it and stunned it, that was next to my boat while I was duck hunting. Shot next to him with my 20 gauge, mud everywhere, reached down and put him in the boat.

    I've shot a lot of gar and a few buffalo suckers....with a bow and harpoon. It's a lot of fun.
     
  7. mbt2001

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    Reminds me of Bull frog hunting in irrigation canals or small creeks. Straight down shot, 22 short right to the head. Not but a few inches of water between you and the target if that.
     
  8. Grumulkin

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    I've taken carp with a 22 LR.
     
  9. Dave P

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    My grandfather used to shoot the big muskies after he landed them. They gots big teeth in North Wisconson.
     
  10. KenWP

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    Where my dad comes from a Sask. they shot lots of fish in the spring during spawning season with 22's. They ate a lot of suckers in the spring let alone pike.
     
  11. MCgunner

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    During the summer, black tip and lemon shark ar in the bay big time and put up a great fight. If I can't get one hand around 'em in back of the head, I tranquilize 'em with my .38. I do it before landing them, though. Wouldn't be smart to shoot 'em in the boat. :D Besides, they're sometimes too big to land without tranquilizing them. They've messed up the shark limits, though, to ONE per day. :rolleyes: It's the commercial pressure on them. The sport fishing pressure on shark is not that great. They have a rather low natality rate, though, being live barers.

    When I first got into bow fishing, I shot some buffalo sucker fish. I tried to eat a few, but they were so full of interstitial bones, they weren't worth the effort. Tasted fine, just too many bones. Make great cut bait for trot lines, though. :D
     
  12. Mp7

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    as a kid i "stabbed" a 2,5foot rainbowtrout once.

    i happened to be sitting right where this bis fish swam by.
    The Martiini filetting knife and my reflexes did the rest :)
     
  13. Dr. Tad Hussein Winslow

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    You must have rented "Secondhand Lions". :D

    I saw a snake exactly like that Monday while kayaking on a river - is that a water moccasin?
     
  14. countertop

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    Thats what I want to know. I didn't grow up down south - and so don't know them from others. But I hate snakes.
     
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    i thought cottonmouth was related to a special kind of "flora" not "fauna" :evil:
     
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    Looks like a water snake, or Water Moccasin as they called in NC. Not poisonous. Doesn't look dark enough for a Cottonmouth. One way to tell for sure, check for fangs(with a stick, not your fingers). On a Cottonmouth that size, they would be a half inch long.
     
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    But it could also be this snake - the western cottonmouth (was this found in Oklahoma??).

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    The shape of the head on the original posters snake makes me think its a moccasin. I guess this description would help too.

     
  19. 2dswamp

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    Just an FYI...water moccasin and cottonmouth are the same snake. "Cottonmouth" is a slang term used to describe a water moccasin
    as the interior of it's mouth is white as cotton, especially when wide open.

    And yes, it is venemous.
     
  20. countertop

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    Yep.

    Same page of Oklahoma snakes has this picture of a moccasin.

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    Its tough to tell coloring by pictures. I guess someone who knew could make a positive identification from the pattern on the body. I don't know. Just wondering if someone else here (or the original poster) does.
     
  21. MCgunner

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    CottonWOOD, maybe? :D
     
  22. chas08

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    This sight explained the Cottonmouth very well. Most water snakes are mistakenly called moccasins. Note in the photos the thick body, a trait not found in the majority of water snakes. But right or wrong, I kill them all, so I won't hurt myself later by being surprised by the same snake. :D

    http://www.wf.net/~snake/moccasin.htm
     
  23. jimmyraythomason

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    IIRC,there 17 different species/sub-speces of water snakes/moccasins in the Glorious South. One of which is known as the Cottonmouth. A CM is a legless grizzly in attitude when riled. Look at the eyes,round pupils=NOT poisonous, eliptical pupils(cat like)=poisonous. Much safer than digging for fangs. A dead snake can still "bite". Also look for a pit between the eye and nostril found in pit vipers.
     
  24. 2dswamp

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    I'm no snake expert, but I've lived in the southern most part of Virginia most of my life and hunt in the northern most part of NC where CM/WM are large in number.

    I've killed more CM/WM than I'm able to recall. The snake in the original posters picture greatly resembles all of the CM/WM's that I've sent on to
    snake heaven. If it is not a CM/WM, it would surely be killed for imitating one.
     
  25. memphisjim

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    yes thats a water moc
    the snakes are relatively fat for their length
     
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