Ever wish you had more ammo on you?

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I remember reading an article written by Evan Marshall years ago about having enough gun for a fight.

The story went something like this:

He was a Detective at the time, Detroit as I recall.

He gets home from work, changes, places his Browning High Power and Five shot 38 revolver on the closet shelf and plops down in his Lazy Boy.

His wife calls out for him to go to the grocery store on the corner for a gallon of Milk.

He get's dressed, goes to the closet and chooses a gun for the trip.

He looks at the High Power and thinks "I'm just going to the corner" and grabs the five shot 38 and drops it in his pocket.

He gets to the store, grabs the milk and puts it on the belt for the cashier to ring up.

At this point, two masked men with shotguns bust into the store and scream for him and the male clerk to hit the deck.

At this point he makes eye contact with the Clerk and starts to say "Just do what they say" when the clerk blerts out "Your a COP, do something!!"

Everyone goes wide eyed. He draws and fires two rounds at each of the bad guys as he bails for an isle. They fire back at him as they bail for the next isle over.

Bad guys that know where he's at, one round left and no reload. He thinks to hime self he has three options at this point. 1) Shoot himself and get it over with 2) Shoot the Clerk or 3) try to use the one round left to pock the first guy to try to round the corner, take his shotgun and try for the other guy.

Before he could move, the Stakeout Squad that was watching the store bust in and kill both bad guys
 
I don't understand why those of you who carry semi-autos are not carrying spare magazines. That is just amazing to me. Semi-autos make for really easy reloading and yet you opt not to be able to exercise that option by not carrying extra mags.

When I read things like that, my mind flashes back to comments made by people in various forums or at the range who talk about how well prepared they are should something go wrong. You learn they are always in condition yellow, sleep and shower with a gun on, take all the gun rags, own copies of Blackhawk Down on both VHS and DVD, have a flashlight, knife, and secret decoder ring, but no spare magazines.

My conclusion is that some of us are really well prepared for anything as long as it is of very short duration.

I either carry one or two spare mags, or a BUG, or one spare mag and a BUG. I have a box in the car with loaded spare mags for my AR15, CX4 Storm, 1911s, Kahr, and BHP. I can see no reason not to have extras in the car just like I have extras at home. Regardless of what I am carrying, I will have additional spares in my vehicle.

What I truly find amazing are the folks that claim they can't carry a spare mag because the extra weight causes them back pain. And then you learn they have a pager, cell phone, pepper spray, keys, pocket knife, belt knife, wallet, $32 in quarters, and a flashlight to go along with their holstered gun. It ain't the spare magazine that is causing the back troubles!
 
I was always taught that "enough" ammo was 20 rds more than you had on you. Makes sense to me...

Sometimes I have one gun. Sometimes two, three... I've even carried five at once (just to see if it was possible: it was, and not too uncomfortable). Except for the Seecamp, I have at least two reloads available for any weapon I may carry. The "grab 'em and run" long guns even have reloads ready (the AR has a mag on the stock, one in the well, and 8 in a tool bag. The Storm has two extras on it's stock. Etc)...

Regardless of WHAT you carry, your "load-out" should include extra ammo.
 
Awhile ago I was with my father and we were working on some of our rental properties. One of these buildings is in a somewhat "bad" area. There were several guys (5 exactly) hanging around the corner. While we were replacing some siding, we overheard them say something about what were we doing on "their block" and some other nonsense. I did not have a firearm on me that day since I had been painting\roofing, etc since 5am that day and didn't see a need for it. My dad says don't worry, that he has a gun in his toolbox, and that I should get it out just in case. I did so and was somewhat worried after finding it was a KelTec .32 without any reloads. Not exactly what I expected but even so, 2 mags would have made it a little more "comforting". Nothing happened in the end, but more ammo would have been nice.
 
And people wonder how I can conceal a total of 60 rounds... :scrutiny:

Shoulder holstered Beretta 96 plus two reloads: 31 rounds of .40
Pocket carried Bersa .380 plus three reloads: 29 rounds

And no, you can't tell. :p
 
Double Naught...maybe I should have been more precise:

The bare-bones-minimum I carry with me is:

Colt 1911 .45 ACP: 10, 10-round mags (100 rounds)
Glock 17 is 10, 19-round mags (190 rounds)

Depending on where I am going, I sometimes opt to have a two or three of the 10, 33-round mags. I have for the G17. That boosts me up to 290 rounds for the G17.

My max. ever carried, when using on-body carry at max. and in briefcase to max. with books, etc. was 265 rounds .45 ACP for my 1911 and 520 rounds of 9MM for the Glock. Why? Just to try it. To see how "weighty" that much ammo. was. By the way, that breaks down to the following magazines touted:

220 rounds (22, 10-round) .45 ACPs
45 rounds (3, 15 round) .45 ACPs
190 rounds (10, 19-round) .9MMs
330 rounds (10, 33-round) .9MMs
785 rounds total (I still had one extra box of 9MM and one box extra of .45 ACP, for total available of 985 rounds).

Now, since I carry a briefcase 99% of my waking moments, heavy ammo loads are a pretty simplistic feat.

So, Double Naught, does that fit the bill for magazines? :D

This, by the way, is what I keep loaded at any point in time in the vault. I have more pistol magazines, but they are new, unused. It also excludes my 30, 20-round magazines of 7.62 for the M1A Loaded. :evil: I keep waiting for some prison escapee to have the misfortune of wondering into my house.

Doc2005
 
I've not read this entire thread, but although in civilian life I've never needed more than I carried, I *always* wish I had more. In truth, I usually have 5 rounds of 45 LC on me. It oughta do.
Biker
 
Typically If I carry my 1911, I have 19 or 27 rounds depending on whether I carry one or two spare mags. 8+1 in gun, and 10 round spare, sometimes second 8 round spare as well.

If I carry my 9, it is 14+1 in gun and one 14 round reload. I have a bersa thunder I carry from time to time, as a BUG...
 
Doc2005 said:
The bare-bones-minimum I carry with me is:

Colt 1911 .45 ACP: 10, 10-round mags (100 rounds)
Glock 17 is 10, 19-round mags (190 rounds)

Depending on where I am going, I sometimes opt to have a two or three of the 10, 33-round mags. I have for the G17. That boosts me up to 290 rounds for the G17.

My max. ever carried, when using on-body carry at max. and in briefcase to max. with books, etc. was 265 rounds .45 ACP for my 1911 and 520 rounds of 9MM for the Glock. Why? Just to try it. To see how "weighty" that much ammo. was. By the way, that breaks down to the following magazines touted:

220 rounds (22, 10-round) .45 ACPs
45 rounds (3, 15 round) .45 ACPs
190 rounds (10, 19-round) .9MMs
330 rounds (10, 33-round) .9MMs
785 rounds total (I still had one extra box of 9MM and one box extra of .45 ACP, for total available of 985 rounds).

Now, since I carry a briefcase 99% of my waking moments, heavy ammo loads are a pretty simplistic feat.

So, Double Naught, does that fit the bill for magazines? :D

This, by the way, is what I keep loaded at any point in time in the vault. I have more pistol magazines, but they are new, unused. It also excludes my 30, 20-round magazines of 7.62 for the M1A Loaded. :evil: I keep waiting for some prison escapee to have the misfortune of wondering into my house.

Doc2005

Sounds like someone is expecting the zombie hoards to come soon...
 
Hoboy...

I was once told that if 21 rounds (of .45) didn't get the job done, it was because of one of two things:

1. The round is ineffective against your target, and you should desist and retreat,:banghead:

or

2. You can't hit the broadside of a barn (never mind your target), and you should desist and retreat.:fire:

If hundreds of folks are coming your way, you ARE NOT going to have time to center-punch ALL OF THEM with even TWO semi-auto pistols. By the time you had run dry and completed ONE tactical reload, they would be all over you.:what: This would not be the time for a pistol. This would be the time for molotov cocktails or a general-purpose belt-fed machine gun.

Don't have the other stuff? Then you're not equipped for an en masse onslaught. Execute a retrograde movement and develop a new strategy.
 
In about 1990, a buddy and I once took a wrong turn in Baltimore (we were passing through on our way to work at a summer camp as archery instructors---two hicks from Texas in downtown Baltimore).

Lots and lots of dead ends. I thought we'd never get out of there. Scary part of town. Liqour store on every corner, and a lot of folks eyeing two 20 year olds in our beat up 1980 Dodge ram pickup with Texas plates looking lost. Couple of times people blocked us in the street and asked us what the ___ we were doing there. My only armament? My 70# compound bow behind the seat. Yep, you could say I felt unarmed!
 
Damn you guys are making me feel paranoid.

I carry a USP .45 with 2 spare mags. That's a total of 37 rounds of .45 ACP :D

Sometimes I only carry one spare... Which is still 25 rounds.
 
I like having the option of just dropping the mag if I run into a doublefeed, rather than having to hold on to a partially-used mag while manipulating my weapon. Can't do that unless you have extra mags.
 
Double Naught Spy said:
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My conclusion is that some of us are really well prepared for anything as long as it is of very short duration.

You sound like my ex-girlfriend...

But anyways... This one time at a gunshow I decided i could carry a case of 9mm AND a case of .45 back to the car, and that was one time i actually wished i had LESS ammo on me.


And yes... Always a spare mag. Not because I think i'll need extra ammo, but because a magazine failure with no extra magazine would be catastrophic.
 
yeah

just this past weekend.

I ran out in the middle of an IPSC match. Those darn plates were tough to hit. took many more rounds than I brought. Had to buy ammo from the next guy. :D
 
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