Ever wondered what might of happened if you did not have a gun?

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When I was a kid my dad worked as a traveling salesman. East Texas and
West Texas, dirt and sky between us and anything else. Loved the life, both
me and my sister..... not so much me and my dog (yes my dog).

We stoped one night on the side of the road, me and my sister was asleep in
the van. It was some place in west Texas (going to Lubbock). My dad and
my mom walked the dog (bout 50 feet from the van) to come back and find 2
guys looking in the windiows. Dad realy loved us. He cursed at the guy in
front asking what he was doing, the guy started walking to him. He pulled his
Ruger .357 (Speed 6 I think could have been Security 6) and told the man to
stop right there or he would have killed him (I cleaned it up a bit). At first the
guy did not back down. I wolk up around that time. I remember my dad telling
the guy to back off or he would shoot him and let the dog eat him. The guy
moved off. My folks got into the van and drove off.

The next day a young couple was found dead about 2 miles from were we
were.

I do not know for sure if those men did it.

Wrighting this made me call my dad and ask him about it. He is so calm now.
I wish I could really let him know how much I love and admire him. My dad
would have fought them tooth and nail had he not been armed. He is the only
man I have even questioned myself on if I could beat in a fight.

Gotta love dad! :D
 
The next day a young couple was found dead about 2 miles from were we
were.

I do not know for sure if those men did it.
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If the thug kept on coming and ignored your Dad's warnings, two more lives could have been saved. I don't know. Can't say for sure. Did they catch the perps?
 
Warsaw Ghetto before it had guns had Jews running for cover. After the Jews got smart, the Nazis were running for cover. Need we say more? :D
 
I don't think I'd be writing this if it weren't for the use of a firearm in my past. Oh, and a very nice young lady would have been gang raped; I don't know if she would have lived or not.

I've never been more thankful for having a firearm than that particular incident.

Take care,
DFW1911
 
I am a tree hugging/Liberal/animal saving/pro-abortion/crewcut/Libertarian. We still can't afford to alienate anyone in the true interest of RKBA, y'know?
 
I think I would have had to take a hell of a beating to death or until incapacitated and then never woke up or woke up to a female friend and her daughter dead at the hands of her violent ex.

Mr. Springfield .45 insisted on a rather different outcome.
 
We would have compressed air powered weapons. Engineers can do without gunpowder. High powered repeating crossbows would be the norm. The Chinese had them centuries ago. Now with the materials we have now it would be awesome.
 
Rail Guns would be popular, the mags would be rechargeable and could hold way more ammo.

If no type of gun existed, then people would be open carrying their swords, Conan The Barbarian anyone?
 
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This ideal made me think what would our lives be like with out guns?

So please leave your thoughts on this.
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Do you mean everybody (cops, military, etc.), "The People" or just I have no guns? Would cops and military have guns? Would other nations have guns?

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If it's just the law-abiding People without guns, then we'd have a Mexico situation, except with politicians who have more power to throw around. In other words, we'd be living in a crime-ridden police state. There would be areas controlled only by the armed criminals.

If it's just me without a gun, I'd survive. However, the possibility of not being able to protect my life/family would eat away at me.

If it's nobody on earth with a gun, then the U.S. would not be a super power.
 
Freedom would not exist as we know it.


Hand combat would benefit those who trained, spent most of thier lives training and studying various types of fighting and practiced methodicly since childhood.
To support such a warrior class that produced and contributed little an even larger number of people would have to work more hours for less.

If those people got tired of the situation and rebeled, the warrior class would quickly crush them as they would be vhastly more capable.

You would essentialy have the fuedal system again. Where the serf who must work many hours a day toiling just for sustenance has no hope of defeating the knight who spends most days practicing warfare and has been in training since they were a child.
They also have no chance to defeat the nobles. The nobles had the opportunity for great education because they did not have to work from sunrise till sunset every day for sustenance.

So you had a limited number of educated people backed by those that spent most of thier lives practicing and training to fight, vs simple people that could not aquire education, and did not have the time to learn to fight well in a military capacity. If you were born a peasant there was little you could do to change it. The material for self education was limited and controlled, and most of your time was consumed working for land barons to feed yourself and family. Spare time for hobbies or learning to do things reserved for the warrior class was not available.

An unfree society where it is hard for the masses to change the situation.

Firearms changed that whole power balance. Suddenly the person that spent 1 month practicing to shoot is not a lifetime behind the person that has been shooting thier whole life as was the case in many forms of combat that predated the firearm.
It means those that practice fighting thier whole lives are no longer quite as important.
The warrior class is no longer necessary and disappears (usualy not without a fight first.)

The people are suddenly not so different when it comes to lethality. As a result all members of society must respect eachother a great deal more, even those who are better than others. ;)

That lays the foundation for more free societies.

Bottom line is that without firearms the progress to democratic societies would not have come in most places.
Democracy literaly happens because the more numerical masses are a threat to even the more educated or better trained elite who must concede more freedom to those masses.
The least educated peasant can pick up and learn to shoot a firearm well in a short time, even if they had no chance in a swordfight against a noble or knight.

Firearms were literaly the death of a warrior class in most societies. Whether the knights of Europe or the Samurai of Japan and everything in between. Militias and standing armies recruited directly out of the population replaced the life long warrior that learned to be what they were from childhood (and was often selected based on bloodline.)


That means individual martial capability is no longer as significant or important. So society learns to focus on other things. The elite must learn to manipulate and control through politics and economic controls rather than through the warrior class.
Those that enforce thier will are from the general population rather than a special warrior class.
So it is a very different game. One that gives a much greater chance at freedom to the average person.
 
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We might be looking for ways to conceal our blow guns, argue over the best darts, and see cutting edge technology on over-under or double-barreled tubes.
 
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