FA bench swager

[Axis II]

Asking for a buddy who doesn’t do social media. Anyone use this swager? He wants to get one and I don’t know squat about them.

 

[Big Wes]

I know nothing about the FA swagger, Tell him to get the Dillon swagger it's the cats meow!

 

[CQB45ACP]

If this is what HE is asking about then it’s fine, but I have nothing to compare it to. Got it on sale somewhere or another. But why would he want one before he knows squat?

 

[weeniewawa]

If this is what HE is asking about then it’s fine, but I have nothing to compare it to. Got it on sale somewhere or another. But why would he want one before he knows squat?

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looks like they copied the Dillon and turned it up on its end. sure, that will fool the attorneys.

 

[dh1633pm]

I use the Dillon. Can’t even say how many 5.56 and 7.62 brass I have processed. Never used an FA. Franklin Arsenal, if that’s what FA stands for.

 

[Engineer1911]

Save some money: Ram Swage - Lee Precision I bought this from MidwayUSA on sale/free shipping. Much easier to use on crimped primer pockets than a countersink. 9 mm, 223, 308, or 30-06 military brass. It "fixes" Aguila brass with ease. Ended my primer seating problems.



The 'die' mounts in a single stage press, and the round 'swagers' replace the shell holder. The die is adjusted for the correct swage to easily seat the primers. You can sort the crimped brass by headstamp or set the die once and just get the job done. I can swage about 12 cases per minute with my hand and shoulder problems. My Rock Chucker has a 10" long custom "Built by Bob" handle for swaging primer pockets and seating bullets.

 

[CQB45ACP]

Save some money: Ram Swage - Lee Precision I bought this from MidwayUSA on sale/free shipping. Much easier to use on crimped primer pockets than a countersink. 9 mm, 223, 308, or 30-06 military brass. It "fixes" Aguila brass with ease. Ended my primer seating problems.

Interesting. Midway has the FA on sale as we speak for $53.91 so the difference isn’t all that much. https://www.midwayusa.com/case-cleaning-and-preparation/br?Brand=Frankford%20Arsenal&cid=695

But besides that, so you’ve used both the Lee and FA (or at least one of the same design)? And the Lee is easier? How so? What’s the Aguila fix?

I just can’t see how anything can be easier than the FA. I just pop it in the mount as my picture (prior post) shows and then pull the lever.

Make the OPs friends life (and mine) easier please

 

[FROGO207]

I use the CH4D primer pocket swager. I purchased the swager/ram prime combo for around $38 shipped a few years ago. It swages like the Lee Ram Swager. You can find a video of it working on You Tube. I suck at linking videos LOL. Using it on the top of a single stage press is the fastest way I found to swage so far. No inner rod to adjust either. Just set the depth and go at it.

 

[CQB45ACP]

I use the CH4D primer pocket swager. I purchased the swager/ram prime combo for around $38 shipped a few years ago. It swages like the Lee Ram Swager. You can find a video of it working on You Tube. I suck at linking videos LOL. Using it on the top of a single stage press is the fastest way I found to swage so far. No inner rod to adjust either. Just set the depth and go at it.

Doesn’t sound any easier to me (if this was directed to me) and since I’m not looking to change all’s good.

 

[FROGO207]

• Not directing it at anyone. Just relating my experience that trying other means brought me to. I got along with using a Camp King knife to ream out primer pockets in the dark ages, moved to a counter sink, then to a RCBS press mounted tool so as not to remove material, then tried a friends Dillon Super Swage, and finally ended up with the CH4D that mounts on my press.

 

[CQB45ACP]

• Not directing it at anyone. Just relating my experience that trying other means brought me to. I got along with using a Camp King knife to ream out primer pockets in the dark ages, moved to a counter sink, then to a RCBS press mounted tool so as not to remove material, then tried a friends Dillon Super Swage, and finally ended up with the CH4D that mounts on my press.

Well I didn’t really need what I bought nor any other except I use only once fired or range pickup brass in 9mm and once in a blue moon I’ll find a crimped pocket. Throwing it away would be a more practical choice but I can’t bear to trash stuff.

 

[mdi]

I like Frog's post, the first time I ran into some brass with primer crimps, after scraping one out with a screwdriver, I immediately thought of a counter sink, Life long machinist/mechanic I had several in my tool box, grabbed a 1/2"x60 degree countersink and decrimped 100, 45 ACP cases. That was in the mid '80s and I have never needed to use any "dedicated" decrimping tool, swage or ream on thousands of rounds (9mm, 38 Special, 45 ACP, 30-06, 7.62x51, 303 British). I also stopped unexpected primer pops when priming with a Lee Loader (before my experience with military brass). My 44 Magnum Lee Loader would pop 3 or 4 out of 50 which caused a need to change skivvies. I used a countersink to chamfer the primer pockets and no more surprises...

 

[CQB45ACP]

I like Frog's post, the first time I ran into some brass with primer crimps, after scraping one out with a screwdriver, I immediately thought of a counter sink, Life long machinist/mechanic I had several in my tool box, grabbed a 1/2"x60 degree countersink and decrimped 100, 45 ACP cases. That was in the mid '80s and I have never needed to use any "dedicated" decrimping tool, swage or ream on thousands of rounds (9mm, 38 Special, 45 ACP, 30-06, 7.62x51, 303 British). I also stopped unexpected primer pops when priming with a Lee Loader (before my experience with military brass). My 44 Magnum Lee Loader would pop 3 or 4 out of 50 which caused a need to change skivvies. I used a countersink to chamfer the primer pockets and no more surprises...

And you still use the countersink? Hand held? Drill chuck? How do you avoid too deep?

 

[Engineer1911]

And you still use the countersink? Hand held? Drill chuck? How do you avoid too deep?

Eyeball precision micrometer, estimated 0.025" chamfer, or 'close enough' works. Thousands of cases on a drill press with the same solid carbide countersink -- no more.