Facebook and gun posts?

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Trent said:
CoalTrain; You think there's a difference between "public" (social media) and "private" sites? Anything you put out on the internet can be subpoenaed for evidence. Even private messages on privately owned bulletin boards like this one. If Derek got a court order for a user he'd have to mine out all the user's data and hand it over, or risk having the entire server(s) seized as evidence. (Sometimes they still ask for that, and you have to fight it).

I run a couple of datacenters, and do hosting for Fortune 500's. Stuff like that is far more common than most people realize.

It's also absolutely frightening, what they'll come in and do at gun point, without any technical guidance about what belongs to who, or what goes where.

This one event in Texas, was particularly horrifying for every datacenter / hosting operator in the country to read about:


http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/04/data-centers-ra/



The same applies to your computer system. I've *actually done* forensic work before on computer workstations, and trust me, the programs that are out there to cover your search history tracks don't do you a damn bit of good. Formatting a drive doesn't do any good.

And since the NSA has got so remarkably good at beam splitting and setting up man in the middle attacks using clones of the root CA SSL certs, even encrypted data over the internet has to be assumed "compromised".

Very few ways to be secure online, nowadays, regardless of what platform you use; public social media, or private BBS's.
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I consider this forum to be public although there are some controls about the content and who posts here. I don't think the content is sold but it is probably monitored.

I use gmail and I'm sure even that information could be gathered if a judge thought it appropriate. I'm not sure how effective it would be in court however. It does give insight to investigators and gives them information they wouldn't normally have.

I used to work for a gov't agency and people were fired if they used their personal accounts on work computers because the agency couldn't access that information internally without jumping through a bunch of legal hoops.

I don't think one has to worry about FB unless you are involved in something illegal. I just don't like being profiled for who knows what kind of activity.

I have a relative who used to work for the military as an intel analyst. One of his jobs was data retrieval when the agents he worked with busted a place. He said the same thing you did.
 
CoalTrain49 said:
I consider this forum to be public although there are some controls about the content and who posts here. I don't think the content is sold but it is probably monitored.
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I'm sure ANY bulletin board with an NFA Firearms section is monitored, by someone, somewhere.

I have a relative who used to work for the military as an intel analyst. One of his jobs was data retrieval when the agents he worked with busted a place. He said the same thing you did.
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We're paranoid about it, but rightfully so. The Government can be a little heavy handed when it comes to "gathering evidence."

Fortunately it seems like they're starting to understand what the word "co-location" actually means. :)

(EDIT: for those that don't understand what "co-location" means, it's when you have Google servers, Akamai caching servers, Direct TV servers taking up racks in the same row; and a few dozen racks of shared / rental cloud servers scattered about the same datacenter.)
 
Technically there is no warrant required to access cloud-based mail since (by the very nature of a cloud based service) you've already given up your expectation of privacy by sharing the information with a third party (the company providing the service).

One problem with Facebook being "free" is that they can use your Photos, Likes or whatever to generate revenue through ads. "Like" a product, movie, etc. and your name and likeness can be bought as an ad by the advertiser of that product, movie, etc. to your friends. Like a Chevy and GM can buy an ad on Facebook that uses your name, photo, etc. Not only do you not get a cut of the revenue, but you aren't even notified that it occurred.
 
improperlyaged said:
I hate facebook. I wish it would die and Mark Zuckerberg can go suck on an egg. I have seen things like this as well where it seems that facebook is censoring people's posts.
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+1

FaceBook and LinkedIn have both been hacked significantly in the last couple years. I disconnected the FB accounts we had. Haven't missed it a bit and don't have to worry about the FISA courts/NSA seeing what's not there. IIRC, FB/ AT&T/Verizon are under contracts for data access for DHS.
 
I saw this on facebook this morning, a post from demand action a MAIG sponsored site for gun owners who support background checks. You get a free bumper sticker if you recently purchased a firearm and are happy that you had a background check (?). I "investigated" the link and saw that it was MAIG sponsored. Needless to say, I did not "Like it".

If you went through a background check to buy your gun, get a FREE bumper sticker and show your support for background checks.

Free Bumper Stickerwww.demandaction.org

Gun owners know that background checks keep our kids and families safe without infringing on Second Amendment rights. It's a no-brainer! Show your support of...​

[ I think I figured out the link issue. I put up a jpg from my google page. ]

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chuck
 
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You mean like, "I'm glad I got a background check because I didn't know if I was a felon or not?"

Bloomberg and his minions can get downright insulting sometimes.
 
I post my daughter's essay all the time. Have yet to get a proper response to it by a anti gunner. If FB wants to use it against me or her, then by all means. It just means they have to read it to do so.

I am a Marine so I am careful about what I share because I know my TS, and career could be put in jeopardy by one post. At the same time, I can feel free to post my Pro-2A items so long as they do not advocate over throwing the government and such.
 
This issue was solved tonight, by the way.

I created a new empty album to sort some rifle competition photos in to it.

Lo and behold, default security setting on new, empty photo albums is "Me Only" (not friends, not public).

So, this was 100%, entirely, completely, and utterly my fault for not paying attention, and not some nefarious plot or sneaky trickster anti-gun intern.

Anyway, that's that. Mystery solved. :)
 
CoalTrain49 said:
Why are you using Facebook? Have you ever heard of data mining programs. One can be specifically written to gather pro-gun data. Originally it started out to gather data for marketing but it has gone way beyond that now. You no longer have control of any information that you put on a public forum. You may think you do but there is really no way to know for sure. FB is just a sophisticated public forum with control options. Do you actually think they do what you think they do, I don't.
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My thoughts exactly...
 
Twiki357 said:
Steelerdude99: “I did not "Like it".”
Apparently you weren’t the only one. Only two comments and three “Likes.”
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Twiki357, They put up a another similar post up earlier today and (guess what?) .... that one "fell flat" as well. Just four "likes" and one comment. That was at least 8 or so hours ago too. I don't know how or why this group's postings show up on my facebook. I have never given anyone on facebook even a hint of being a gun-control supporter.

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chuck
 
Twiki357, They put up a another similar post up earlier today and (guess what?) .... that one "fell flat" as well. Just four "likes" and one comment. That was at least 8 or so hours ago too. I don't know how or why this group's postings show up on my facebook. I have never given anyone on facebook even a hint of being a gun-control supporter.
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Facebook also pays attention to any searches you do and sell that info to advertisers. Hence if you do gun related searches while on their site you will get gun related ads.
 
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