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Favorite 223 Cases to reload-

Discussion in 'Handloading and Reloading' started by gifbohane, Jun 12, 2019.

  1. gifbohane

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    I have been buying Federal bulk 223 to shoot and then reload. I now think that I should buy a few hundred decent cases and reload them and supplement them with range pickup.

    Lately I have been finding a lot of (with and without mil crimp) LC empties at the range. Kind of surprised me that they would get dumped since I think they are good.

    Anyway what pickups do you find to be reliable and/or give you the most reloads in 223? FC, GFL, PPU, other?

    Or which ones do you hate and why? ie. bad pockets.
     
  2. adcoch1

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    Had trouble recently with aguila 223, bad primer pockets and soft brass. This is all range pickup though, so no idea about lot # and not enough of it to know if it is all bad. But I have had some issues with it...
     
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    I like the LC brass a lot followed by Federal. PPU brass is good stuff too.
     
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  4. ATLDave

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    For loads where I care about accuracy in a real way: LC, preferably never-fired that has no crimp. FC with dots is second choice. Most of the rest is used for mere blasting ammo and is usually left on the ground after 2-3 firings.
     
  5. edwardware

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    Of my pickups:
    - Unadulterated LC has the best case uniformity and neck/pocket durability.
    - Commercially reloaded LC pocket durability is a crapshoot. Some is ok, some is reamed to ruin.
    - PPU (and PSD) has outstanding durability, but case weight variation is kinda high.

    The rest of the commercial brands I've picked up seem to die for loose pockets within 5 reloads, so it's not worth investing much effort in a batch.
     
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  6. denton

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    I use LC, and have always gotten very good results with it. Also, there is a ton of it available free locally.

    LC has just a little more case capacity than most other types. Since the same company that owns Federal also runs the Lake City plant, you'll probably find LC and Fed to be similar.

    I give my LC a little countersink on the primer pocket. I also have 1000 new LC cases with no crimp. I haven't had any reason to use that, with so much free brass available.
     
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  7. alsaqr

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    i use Lake City brass.
     
  8. kcofohio
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    LC is at the top of my list. Consistency. And I have quite a few of them.

    Bottom of my list would be Perfecta. Usually off center flash hole.

    PMC (Korean) seems to have less case volume. Loads that I had worked up with other headstamp in PMC yielded higher pressures.
     
  9. Blue68f100

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    LC for my general shooting, sorted. Lapua for match loads.
     
  10. Charlie98

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    Generically speaking, LC, FC, PMC, RP... in that order. Mine, not range pickup.
     
  11. entropy

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    LC, then everything else. Like the rest of you, I'm not fond of Perfecta.
     
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  12. lightman

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    My favorite range brass is LC. I also have quite a bit of new LC that I bought back in 2006-2007 that is not crimped. Older Winchester works ok. I've about got to where I scrap any crimped brass thats not LC.
     
  13. RikSors

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    Lapua but expensive.

    PMC is preferable and gets separated from other commercial for range pick ups. Otherwise, LC if not commercial.
     
  14. jeeptim

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    Another for lake city
     
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    I use a lot of Winchester, does fine but there's a fair amount of prep work involved. I picked up 500 pieces of '95 LC brass to see what all the fuss was about...meh, it's 223 brass. I really didn't see any difference vs prepped Winchester.
     
  16. 9mmepiphany

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    A find and use a lot of Wolf Gold .223. It is often discarded in the mistaken belief that it is made in Russia...it is manufactured in Taiwan
     
  17. Toprudder

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    I had good results using loads I worked up with PMC brass. If I were going to buy factory ammo knowing I would be saving the brass to reload, it would probably be PMC. But for range pickup, I prefer LC. I know if I have to remove the crimp, it has only been fired once. I've had great results with LC brass that I neck turned.
     
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  18. Average Joe

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    First choice is Lake City, followed by PPU .
     
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    FC then LC. Working on the 4th reload on LC, got 8 out of FC before I lost enough cases and decided to stop reloading em
     
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    Given the common price difference, I am happy to load FC headstamp cases.

    Yeah, I know all the concerns about the brass being thinner and the primer pockets getting loose sooner than other headstamps. But none of that matters since I only recover about 65% of my brass and that means - statistically - all of the cases from any particular batch are "lost to the weeds" long before the case fails.
     
  21. edwardware

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    Interestingly I'm just auditioning a batch of LC06 brass with remarkably off-center holes, worse than I've ever seen.
     
  22. edwardware

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    With minimal shoulder setback, and annealing every 2x firings, I've had to retire my last batch of 5.56LC after 16+1 loading cycles. Pockets were finally loosening, and I saw a couple incipient head seps.
     
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  23. kcofohio
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    That is interesting. I can't recall using any LC06 yet. I'll take a closer look if I have any. Hope that is an isolated incedent.
     
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    Just the other day, I picked up over 200 pc. of 223/556 range brass. Several had Win USA & 556 mm, crimped primer with no NATO symbol. I'll be curious how those do.
     
  25. gifbohane

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    How do you guys feel about GFL (Fiocchi) 223? I picked up about 300 of these.
     
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