Officers'Wife
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Marinate in milk? Interesting! I'll have to try that. Thank you!
andrew, what I do for jerky is a marinade of black pepper, soy sauce or teriyaki sauce (sometimes both), some garlic powder (or just crush some cloves in the marinade) and whatever spices float your boat... Teriyaki will give it a sweetish flavor although barely detectable, I personally can't stand sweet meats. Mainly, it's pepper, salt, and garlic and/or onion for me. Sometimes I like to heavily season it, sometimes I like to let more of the meat flavor come through. I cut it really thin, seems like the thicker pieces, while not "spoiled" get a slight "soured" flavor/smell to them, not desireable but not worth throwing it out over. My marinade has to taste good by itself before I'll put meat in it, if it's overpoweringly salty, the meat will be too salty.Curiously none have mentioned milk as a marinade.
The old boers taught us to marinade in milk or buttermilk overnight, the milk seems to draw out the excess blood (which in some African antelope can be overly strong tasting) from the meat and tenderises WITHOUT adding any artificial taste.
The boers also used to marinade in vinegar overnight, this is not for me, although not offensive it does leave a slight taste.
I prefer the taste of the meat and although sauces are nice the big advantage of venison happens to be how healthy a protein source it is. To cover venison with all manners of sugar, fat and starch based additives seems self defeating, if not rather tasty however. So I am more sparing with these products but often roasts and sausage can do with some "moiturising fat".
I am off on a hunt this coming Thursday, we aim on shooting a herd of Impala, well actually 6 and hopefully one Blue Wildebeest cow as they represent the best value for money venison one can shoot. I will bring the meat back in strips and the offcuts as a sausage. Any of you care to share a basic jerky recipe with me that I can try, get the flavours of the real US and not Oberto's. The recipe would have to be with raw ingredients as we will not get most the packaged mixed spice packs that are marketed your side of the pond.
Taste is an odd thing, what you grow up with is what you stay with. Other tastes are not bad but simply different. Was in your neck of the woods a couple of years ago and drove around Frisco, Yosemite, Highway 1 etc. before heading of to the Grand Canyon and Sedona.
There were a couple of things I had to try, these were Jerky (cowboy movies), a bowl of Chilli (cop movies) and Biscuits and Gravy (redneck based movies, not meant in an insulting manner).
Tried a couple of styles of jerky and all seemed sweet (sugar / molasses sweet) to me? Did I get the wrong stuff or is this the prefered manner of preparation.
Would also not mind a decent Chilli recipe, I had chilli in the Grand Canyon which was served in a sourdough bowl (a taste I could not get into, not offensive but would not rush to order again) and the chilli had very little Chillie, I suppose that was due to the fact that they cater for a wideranging bunch of holiday makers.
The last one was biscuits and gravy which a tired in Yosemite. Do biscuits have sourmilk in them?
Cheers
Curiously none have mentioned milk as a marinade.
andrew, what I do for jerky is a marinade of black pepper, soy sauce or teriyaki sauce (sometimes both), some garlic powder (or just crush some cloves in the marinade) and whatever spices float your boat...
haha, one of my buddies from california makes what he calls "real chili" and we argue over it to no end, but yeah, it's a little like spaghetti sauce too. He calls mine "soup" and I call his "ketchup" haha It's not bad, just the texture is not what I'm used to.Andrew Leigh - American chili is a very subjective thing. Nearly EVERYONE has a different idea about what chili should be, there's probably tens of thousands of recipes. Some like it hot, some not, some prefer it insanely hot. With beans, without, many kinds of beans. Many kinds of meat, some even meatless.
"Chili" is more of a food classification, like "soup", rather than one specific dish and recipe. Contests called chili cookoffs are common, with countless different recipes represented.
I've had chili in New York that was more like spaghetti sauce with beans in it! That was just disturbing.
My favorite is texas backstrap which is backstrap stuffed with pablano pepper, onion, and pepperjack cheese and wrapped in bacon and grilled.
When its done right it is the best. I like to use a sharp fillet knife and take a piece of strap about 8in long and basically cut while turning the backstrap making it a 1/2 in thick flat piece then roll it back up with the stuff rolled up in layers.Holy crap that sounds good.
I'm different than a lot of folks around here. I actually like the gamey taste of venison, so I don't do marinades. The only exception is when I grill whole backstraps. Then I like to marinade but it's thick enough that you still get the taste of the meat.
A guy told us once that he knew how to marinate deer to where it tasted just like beef. To which my dad replied, "If I wanted beef, I wouldn't get out of bed at 4:30 in the morning and freeze my butt off in a deer stand. I'd buy beef."
Thanks, BigBore, I'll give that a try and report back ... if I'm lucky enough to get a shot at a deer this season, that is! Didn't even know they made spicy V-8.Sleazy, instead of Tobasco on the side or in the stew, I use one quart of regular V8, and 1 quart of Spicy V8 as my liquid for the stew. Really gives it an awesome kick and adds more nutrition also. Try it some time. Let me know what you think.